Did The Ring name the wrong Fighter of the Year in 2001?

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  1. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Bhop.

    Had the better win later in the year against a very highly rated opponent
     
  2. Think Mayweather was the favorite going into all his fights whereas Hopkins was the underdog against Tito
     
  3. Hands of Iron

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    Mayweather was underdog to Corrales.
     
  4. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Mayweather. Beat one of the best lightweights of his generation and after Mayweather would go on to have wins over Castillo, Casamayor and Frietas. Before that was blowing guys out of the water.

    Famoso and Chavez were also top contenders and belt holders. Watch Jesus Chavez fight against Morales to see how tough he was.

    Hopkins was a middleweight who beat a welterweight who had already showed a propensity for being outboxed. Trinidad was undefeated because he got a gift against Oscar. Hindsight is 20/20 but come on lol.
     
  5. Drew101

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    As much as I've crapped on KT (well...at least referred to him as overrated), his 2001 was pretty damned good, too. Forcing Mitchell to retire and Judah to the chicken dance established him as the champion of 140lbs, and the win over Urkal, though tougher than expected, was decent enough.

    Truthfully, Ring could have named him FOTY in '01 and I wouldn't have complained that much.
     
  6. NWS

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    :lol: :yep
     
  7. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    that's not true actually. Corrales was the favorite going in and he was ranked number 4 p4p while Floyd was 6
     
  8. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Corrales was a slight favorite. Pick em fight and something for you guys with the "blown up WW" argument dont forget chico was also drained :deal
     
  9. MichiganWarrior

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    People act like Oscar wasnt robbed against Tito lol.

    Yeah Oscar ran in the championship rounds. In a fight he had a 5 round lead lol and he STILL won one of those rounds lol

    Hopkins is a great fighter but he was the underdog because of his underwhelming career up to that point.

    Mayweather was an olympic bronze medalist heir apparent fighting his antithesis and put on a dazzling performance in a fight where it was a pick em against a bigger more powerful man.

    Go look at the fight tape and Hopkins is huge compared to Tito.
     
  10. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    so drained that he stayed at the weight for 2 more years and won another title :deal
     
  11. MichiganWarrior

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    Ring rankings 2000

    Shane Mosley
    Felix Trinidad
    Roy Jones Jr.
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Diego Corrales
    Naseem Hamed
    Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Lennox Lewis
    Erik Morales
    Bernard Hopkins

    Superfeatherweight rankings

    Title Vacant
    Diego Corrales
    Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Joel Casamayor
    Acelino Freitas
    Steve Forbes
    Jong-Kwon Baek
    Lakva Sim
    Jesus Chavez
    Yong Soo Choi
    Roberto Garcia
     
  12. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    looking back, I think Floyd deserved it, but at the time, especially since it was later in the year compared to Floyd who beat Corrales in January, I could see how Hopkins rode with the hype.
    Tito ain't **** at MW, but he beat Joppy for a belt the fight before by KO. So people didn't see it that way then
     
  13. megavolt

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    So drained that his very next fight he came in at 136, and that was 2 years after the KO. Many things can happen to your body in that time span
     
  14. NWS

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    Trinidad damn well lost that fight against Oscar, and would've been soundly stood on his head had he fought Whitaker in the mid-90s. :rofl :deal I suppose I won't call him simply a 'blown up welter' because he did crush Joppy and it brings out the "drained" excuses re: Corrales (see megavolt) but Floyd is my pick for the year. There's probably too much emphasis placed on being a favorite or not. Floyd would need to go fight middleweights to not be favored right now.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

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    Um...

    ...thank you. And it was over Casamayor, not some schmuck.

    This argument = massive fail.

    1. This was in the time where The Ring stopped naming lineal champions, which Genaro Hernandez was before they stopped. Thus, The Ring of the time even acknowledged Floyd as the unofficial official lineal champ at 130.

    2. I want to look this up. If I remember correctly Jesus Chavez was ranked inside the top 6 for the two years leading up to 2001, getting as high as 4, so I don't know how he'd fall down to 8th without a defeat entering the Mayweather fight.

    3. Corrales was listed higher P4P by The Ring, but all Vegas odds makers did have Floyd the slightest of favorite... I agree with whom said that being the favorite entering a fight is vastly overrated. You shouldn't get MORE respect for achieving a win simply because the majority of people felt you would lose beforehand. Banks over Mitchell, good win. Not one of the best wins of the year simply because few picked him going in. The win is what it is. Who cares who the favorite was? It's irrelevant.