Did Wilder duck Wlad?

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its not an excuse when it was true. Anyone with half a brain can see the difference in the two Wilder fights and figure out that he was a better-restored fighter in the second.

    But what. He is a great fighter, and is going to climb a lot higher yet, so if you want to cling to knockdowns from when he was 22 and 24, you go right ahead.
     
  2. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Excuses mate thats all
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whatever, dude, that's all.

    You are watching a guy who will be remembered as an ATG. You can understand what you are seeing now or in the rear-view mirror. I give a ****.
     
  4. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Maybe he will be an all time great still does not mean he gets excuses for his mistakes in the ring
     
  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He doesn't need to make excuses you dim bulb. I have already told you, if you want to hold onto the events of nine years ago, go right ahead. I don't care, and neither does anyone else.

    **** off.
     
  6. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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  7. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think you know there’s a huge difference, Wlad fought anyone and everyone except his brother while Wilder didn’t face a ‘live’ opponent until he fought Fury.

    You asked for evidence that Wilder was a cherry picking ducker and I pointed out that he had form for ducking the best which included Wlad.

    You can add Whyte to that list as well, WBC Nō1 contender for Deontays Title for almost 3 years but Wilder adamantly refused to fight him!
     
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  8. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    Honestly, I don't think he ducked Wlad or anyone else for that matter. But the evidence is quite clear that he ducked everyone collectively. Becomes a world champion and then fights Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Arreola, Washington and Stiverne in a row. "He's a baby winning a title. Give him a couple of fights, maybe bring something back to Alabama". They fought in Alabama four more times ffs. It was just an all-American circlejerk while pretending to be a world champion.

    And yes, the Povetkin fight fell through but that doesn't excuse everything.
     
  9. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Finkel protected him from Wladimir. It’s funny that years ago Wilder was complaining about america not caring about him and why he wasn’t a superstar, but if he fought Wladimir he would have been a star even if he lost but he and his team went the easy route but american boxing fans know better and america still doesn’t care about him. He went the villain route and it ended up hurting him more.
     
  10. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad would have brutally KOed Wilder.
     
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  11. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    Given Wilder’s aggressive approach to calling himself the baddest man on the planet, and his claim to want to unify (while Joshua was the champion), you have to admit that he didn’t carry that same energy when Wlad was around.

    Is it a duck? No, technically not. However, it does give off the impression that Wilder and his team wanted no part in that potential fight.
     
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  12. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Why didn't wlad fight Wilder when he was champion?
     
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  13. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because Wilder didn’t want anything to do with Wlad as he knew Wlad would destroy him in a humiliating fashion!

    What’s Wlad meant to do when Wilder won’t go near anyone ranked inside the top 20 (normally top 200) or younger than 40 years old!

    See here for confirmation:
    DEONTAY WILDER PROFESSIONAL FIGHT RECORD
    Fight Nō - Opponent - Rank at Time of Fight - Joshua comparison

    1 - Ethan Cox - Unranked
    2 - Shannon Gray - Unranked
    3 - Richard Green - Unranked
    4 - Joseph Rabotte - 393rd
    5 - Charles Brown - Unranked
    6 - Kelsey Arnold - Unranked
    7 - Travis Allen - Unranked
    8 - Jerry Vaughn - Unranked
    9 - Ty Cobb - 399th
    10 - Alvaro Morales - Unranked
    11 - Dustin Nichols - Unranked
    12 - Shannon Caudle - Unranked
    13 - Harold Sconiers - Unranked
    14 - Dan Seehan - Unranked
    15 - Deandrey Abron - Unranked
    16 - Reggie Penna - Unranked - AJ wins IBF World Title
    17 - Damon Reed - 304th
    18 - D Alexander - Unranked
    19 - Daniel Cota - 489th - AJ Unifies IBF, WBA & IBO World Titles
    20 - David Long - Unranked
    21 - Marlon Hayes - 368th - AJ adds WBO to WBA, IBF & IBO World Titles
    22 - Jesse Oltmanns - 492nd
    23 - Owen Beck - Unranked
    24 - Kertson Manswell - 310th
    25 - Damon McCreary - 357th
    26 - Kevin Price - Unranked
    27 - Matthew Greer - 325th
    28 - Audley Harrison - 136th
    29 - Siarhei Liakhovich - 43rd
    30 - Nicolas Firtha - 121st
    31 - Malik Scott - 86th
    32 - Jason Gavern - 194th
    33 - Bermaine Stiverne - 5th - Wins WBC World Title
    34 - Eric Molina - 37th
    35 - Johan Duhaupas - 34th
    36 - Artur Szpilka - 24th
    37 - Chris Arreola - 43rd
    38 - Gerald Washington - 41st
    39 - Bermaine Stiverne - Unranked
    40 - Luis Ortiz - 4th
    41 - Tyson Fury - 4th - Draw
    42 - Domonic Breazeale - 13th
    43 - Luis Ortiz - 9th
    44 - Tyson Fury - 1st - Lost by Knock Out losing WBC World Title
     
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  14. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    You are claiming Wlad, as unified champion, not fighting Wilder was wilders fault. For this to be true you would need evidence that Wlad made an offer to Wilder. The champion chooses who they make offers to not the other way around
     
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  15. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The very best WK smashes any Wilder inside of 4 rounds with Wilder being rocked by every jab and cuffing punch along the way, until WK delivers the Coup de Gras with likely a jab, RH, L hook combo closing out the show.

    Wilders team did all the ducking while Wilder just followed the program with zero objection.
     
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