did wlad single handinly ruin HW boxign

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  1. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wladimir took over the HW division and ruled it with a steel hammer like no other HW in history.:deal
     
  2. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Come off it. He's the only fighter in the top 10 rankings who hasn't beaten a very good/great fighter. Ward has beaten Kessler, Segura has beaten Calderon, Bradley beat Alexander, PONG beat KOKI KAMEDA and I don't need to mention the others.

    Dominance over poor fighters proves that Wlad is better than poor fighters...it doesn't prove he's great or anything like that.
     
  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can't just name one random fight from a few years ago and assume it means anything :lol:

    For what it's worth, Ferguson wasn't a bad fighter. He lost to Tyson, Holmes etc., and Sprott lost to Matt Skelton. Completely different levels of fighter. Aside from that, Mercer beat Ferguson in the same year.

    Even if the losses were comparable, which they aren't, how would that make the 90's "worse"? I don't understand that line at all.
     
  4. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    -That's precisely what you have done regarding the Klitschko era.

    -Ferguson lost 6 of his last 8 fights, and not all of them were to Hall of Famers, who do you think you are kidding with that misleading Tyson and Holmes crap? Really, Jack? Ferguson only lost to the greats? lol

    And are we going to argue degrees regarding two 36 year old journeymen both handpicked to lose? I wouldn't think so.

    -And Dimitrenko beat Sprott without ever losing to him.

    -Perhaps you should better explain your own logic as Dimitrenko beating Sprott is somehow a knock against this entire era in your eyes. Eh, Dimitrenko is not the first or the last of his kind. Nothing new. But your Dimitrenko/Sprott=Crap Era theory...that needs some work as I've done debunked it no matter how much you stretch and spin.

    Jack's World:

    Dimitrenko beats Sprott...WORST ERA EVER
    Mercer loses to Ferguson...What's the big deal?
     
  5. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad is a great fighter anyone denying it is delusional.
    Holmes did not really beat any great fighter either (that wasnt WAY passed prime) yet noone argues that he is great either.
    His longevity proves it as well.

    Vitali is a h2h nightmare which is why he gets mentioned as well even though his resume is even poorer.
     
  6. tbp82

    tbp82 Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not a Wlad fan but I don't think these questions are fair to Wlad because if you look at what has happened to the heavyweight division since he's been the dominant force the only way to answer this is to say yes boxing would be better with a different champion and yes the HW division would be better without Wlad. But that isn't fair to him because we can't blame him for dominating the competition and not opening up and risking getting knocked out.
     
  7. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    No, but you have single "handinly" destroyed the English language.
     
  8. pirao666

    pirao666 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bro I agree with you, but I have a question.

    Why are you arguing with Jack? It's a waste of time :think
     
  9. And Wlad spanked Haye :lol:
    Toothless delusional brits just make my day :lol:
     
  10. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Short answer: No
    Long answer: Definitely no