Ding AHHILATES Maccarinelli

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  1. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Your thesis assumes that extra weight automatically equals more power - that's pure speculation. Of course, I'm admittedly speculating also, but I base this on the fact that some tomato can with a near-.500 record can take this guy out, it would seem to follow that a prime Braithwaite would.

    Ultimately, like I said, the jury's still out on who's right on the strength of Maccarinelli's beard. Which is exactly why I want him to face Ding.:D
     
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    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    That is ****ed up man. Lewis chin is much better than Williams. Look what Vitali did to him while out of shape and look how he made love to Williams.

    Khan showed heart against Limond.

    Enzo showed heart against Hobson.

    Even Audley showed some heart against Williams when he actually got dropped. When Sprott caught him, he couldn't get up if he wanted to.

    You shouldn't be so disrespectful to fighters.
     
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  4. pioterbezkitu

    pioterbezkitu Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    You don't follow boxing, you follow glass chins
     
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    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good This is what pisses me off about all these 'chin' threads.
     
  6. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    You may see it that way, I see it as simply calling a spade a spade, or in this case a glass jaw a glass jaw. There is too much idol-worship of fighters among boxing fans, it impedes critical analysis. If there are signs of questionable punch resistance, I'm gonna call it - people need to know.

    If you can't see that Fraudley has an abysmal chin, it is clear there you can't recognize that ANY fighter has poor punch resistance. Punch resistance is probably THE most significant factor in predicting the trajectory of a fighter's career. IF Fraudley had had a chin, he wouldn't have been so scared in the ring, and might have been able to unleash some of his natural skills. I am really surprised that you can't see this.

    Oh, and you're gonna hate me for this one, my man - but I think your man Haye has some shaky whiskers, too.:hey If I were him I would think twice about playing with the big boys in the HW division!
     
  7. dragosuhail

    dragosuhail Active Member Full Member

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    i think Zakman tried his hand at boxing once.

    and got KTFO like what otke did to mundine. ever since then he's developed an obsessive eagerness to point out glass jaws to make himself feel better :D

    don't worry tho i don't dislike Zakman. i think he's a colourful character on ESB!

    have you tried having an operation to remove the nerves in your jaw Zakman. im sure you would have come across it in your never ending search for the titanium jaw! ;)

    :rofl :rofl
     
  8. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    the chances of getting koed in boxing is high...so why is it that when somone is koed they are then exposed? very odd
     
  9. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    :lol::lol:

    Guy, I have LITTLE doubt I'd get starched early if I ever stepped in a boxing ring.:D

    And I'm OK with that. Most people would.:hey
     
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    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    When you give a fighter his rightful respect, you are not idolising him, you are respecting the game!

    Punch resistance is merely an element of a fighters career. You are hung up on it. You say Lewis has a glass chin but when he is on form he could beat any heavyweight in the history of this sport.

    Haye does have shaky whispers. As soon as I saw a super middleweight rock his world, I thought about it. Then he got stopped by Carl.

    What did he do though? He got himself a defence, started to train like a professional and became a much more intelligent operator? Doing this has taken him from being the English Champion to the European Champion/ World Title Mandatory...

    ...so there goes your chin theory!
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Yes, much harder in fact.
     
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    If "Ding a Ling" lands a punch like he landed on Emmanuel Nwodo he knocks almost ANYONE out.

    Cruiserweights like him - and perhaps even Enzo Mac himself - tend to make a mockery of the invention of the division itself.
    Watch Ding a Ling KO of Emmanuel Nwodo and tell me that's not a heavyweight punch.
    Man, that **** was sick, that'd make Earnie Shavers proud. ****in' ferocious.

    If Enzo has anything less than good whiskers he shouldn't want no part of Ding a Ling, because even a glancing shot from that dude might KO a cruiser with sub-par chin.

    Having said that, I've seen Ding-a-Ling fight a number of times and often he's too slow, plodding and predictable.
     
  13. Words

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    Who hits harder, Ding or Davi Haye?
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Haye
     
  15. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Same thing Lewis did. Doesn't mean their whiskers aren't still questionable - as Lewis' first fight with Rahman clearly demonstrated. I suspect the same thing will be shown to be the case with Haye, particularly if he moves up to HW.:yep