Dirrell stinks the joint out

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by David UK, Oct 19, 2009.


  1. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    No, hitting more than you get hit does not necessarily mean that you win the fight in professional boxing. You should look into it.
     
  2. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Landing more clean and effective punches is the primary criteria for scoring a round, so yea, it OUGHT to mean that you win. Clearly it doesn't, but that's something to be lamented.
     
  3. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Pasky2000 isn't saying the same thing that you are though. That's why I'm telling him he's wrong and not you....
     
  4. Farmboxer

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    Holding, running, complaining, and falling down on canvas is not boxing,not points for that.
     
  5. Nosbor

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    I could not agree more with the thread's title/premise. Dirrell sure is a talented boxer but he is not my cup of tea. For whatever another arm chair boxing fan's scorecard may mean to you guys, I had Froch winning by one point.

    I would not want to be AA for all the provebial tea in China. Having to chase Dirrell all over a ring, in the States nonetheless, where the officials will be looking to give any and all rounds to Dirrell for his perceived injustice in the U.K..

    I had a feeling that including a runner like Dirrell into this tournament was going to be a big mistake. Let us all hope we do not get something similar from Ward. Him and Dirrell seem to be cut from the same cloth.
     
  6. keith

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    Why does Dirrell have to do more. He won doing what he was doing.

    How come you don't say Froch could have cut of the ring better, threw tighter punches, throw MORE punches (Dirrell threw more than Froch).


    then we wouldn't even be talking about this travesty. Froch won 4 rounds AT BEST.


    Keith
     
  7. Farmboxer

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    I do not give points to someone who refuses to fight. Falling down on canvas, zero points. Running like Hell, no points. Holding, no points, complaining, no points.

    Never call Klitschkos boring, never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Never!!!!!!!!
     
  8. Ivo

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    He was giving him warning like 3 or 4 times. Even after the point deduction Dirrell continued holding.

    Dirrell is very skillful but with his dirty tricks and running failed to win my support.
     
  9. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's exactly what I meant, next time we exchange, I'll make sure to be very precise with the words I use....

    I've been into boxing for nearly 20 years and I know the sport very well thank you !

    One thing needs to be clear though, even if a guy lands 1 big shot at some point in the round, if the other lands more clean punches upstairs or downstairs the rest of the round, the round goes to the more effective puncher throughout the round.

    Its been like that for the last 100 years.

    The most important criteria is landing clean punches more than your opponent, whether they hurt the opponent or not is not as important.

    Like I said previously in some other thread...there's no way PBF could have been declared the winner against DLH if cleanly landed punches weren't in his favor for most of the fight !

    The word effective is very subjective.... Was Miguel Cotto effective against Margarito in the 1st 7 rounds ? He was landing clean combos at will but they didn't shake off Antonio one bit.... Cotto was still winning the rounds by landing straight on the money versus Margo that was throwing more but not doing the same as often !

    That's what I mean in regards to outlanding with the Dirrell-Froch fight.
     
  10. Cobbler

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    Because the referee raised Froch's hand at the end. If Dirrell had won, we could have had plenty of discussions about what Froch could/should have done.

    Saying that 'he won doing what he was doing' is delusional. He didn't win. His record says he didn't win. The fact that he doesn't have the WBC belt says he didn't win. He probably could have stood a far better chance of winning if he'd approached the fight differently. His promoter says he fought the wrong gameplan. His team told him during the fight that he wasn't going to win fighting the way he was. Depending on what lessons Dirrell takes from this fight will greatly affect how goodhe will turn out to be.
     
  11. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually like Froch as a fighter and I really don't care much about Dirrell, but its obvious you're in total denial with the true outcome of that fight...;)
     
  12. keith

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    Sometimes what happens in the ring doesn't beat politics, but it doesn't mean it didn't happen. The record books can say one thing, but history will read this as a win for Dirrell, just like other robberies in history.

    Keith
     
  13. Axe

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    The "best post you've seen" on the fight?

    The guy you quoted stated in his post that he scored FIVE even rounds. A professional boxing judge would be shot dead for scoring TWO even rounds in a professional fight, but FIVE?

    You need to get your ass checked by a doctor, to see if your head is stuck somewhere inside it. :patsch

    Also Mayweather, the best boxer ever? Learn a little more about the sport before making threads, FFS. :verysad
     
  14. Farmboxer

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    Dirrell thinks it's track & field.
     
  15. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I'm really not. Froch won. Check his record. Dirrell lost. I heard him say so.

    That is the 'outcome' of the fight, and only one of us is in denial.