Disturbing Quote from Dan Rafael regarding Blood Testing for May/Pac

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  1. Shane_Erich

    Shane_Erich Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Name one. As far as I know its undetectable. Stallone got caught, but he got caught WITH it.
     
  2. NALLEGE

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    You don't need a source as you can look it up for yourself. The Olympic style testing tests for PED's/HGH, and if high levels of testosterone are in your blood, you will be caught if you're using hgh. The thing is PAc imo does not have access to new designer steroids so I believe that the blood testing is enough. If it were up to me to advise the commission on how to make everyone happy, I'd have multiple urine tests with one blood test 7 days before the fight, and one blood/urine test right after the fight.
     
  3. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think pac has a psychological advantage over mayweather now and thats what will hurt money the most if he decides to fight him.
     
  4. mking

    mking Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We need a PED expert here at ESB.
     
  5. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Look at MLB for a host of examples.

    Jim Lampley doesn't know what he's talking about. He just likes to hear himself talk.
     
  6. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    Yes, the fat ****er is right. :good

    With all the amount of sensible posts/conversations/articles about this topic, it should be clear to everybody by now.

    Urine test catches the use of anabolic steroid and synthetic erythropoetin hormones (EPO).

    Blood test 24 days the right after the fight will also show if Pac had done blood doping.

    All that's left is HGH of which, by all account, is not beneficial for most boxers.
     
  7. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This^^^^
     
  8. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  9. Edward

    Edward Active Member Full Member

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    He was in Australia if I remember, some places it's not even legal to carry it. I have mates from the gym who have used it and the results can be impressive, don't know about the gut thing though?
     
  10. Edward

    Edward Active Member Full Member

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    By who's accounts? It could be very useful for fighters looking to make an insanely paced march through the weight divisions.
     
  11. rabmag

    rabmag Dead Game Full Member

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    HGH can't be detected. I predict Mayweather will agree to the 17 day cut off and Pacquiao will win by annihilation.
















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  12. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Dan and Jim missed reading this article I guess.

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    [/url] Growth hormone test set

    By From Wire Services | July 29, 2004

    Olympic athletes in Athens will be tested for the banned stimulant human growth hormone for the first time following research at a British university, Dick Pound, head of the World Anti-Doping Agency, said.
    "Up until now we've never had a test reliable enough that we were prepared to use," Pound said in a televised Bloomberg News interview.
    The test, formulated by researchers at Southampton University in southern England and developed at laboratories in Germany, Australia, and the United States, will be carried out on urine and blood samples taken from athletes.

    The hormone, which stimulates the growth of muscles and bones, was added to the International Olympic Committee's list of banned substances in 1989 and has remained undetectable until now. Last week, the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne, Switzerland, cleared Australian sprint cyclist Sean Eadie of trying to import the substance in 1998 and '99.
    Tests carried out at an anti-doping laboratory in Athens will reveal if an athlete has taken the drug in the past 36 hours.
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    "We've got something that not only detects it but will go back a considerable period of time and pick up people who have taken it before and are getting the benefit of it now," Pound said.

    Clare Hartley of the Southampton University team that has worked on the test since 1997 said human growth hormone benefits athletes by turning fat into muscle. It increases energy levels and helps them recover from injuries. "The International Olympic Committee has wanted this for a long time," she said.
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  13. Edward

    Edward Active Member Full Member

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    Think is actually the precise pose Manny does at weigh ins- brilliant!
     
  14. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    read again.

     
  15. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    First off Jim doesn't know **** about what Pacquiao is on or isn't on, also a ton of athletes that take HGH also take masking agents, which is one way to hide HGH use. If you watch some of the suspensions, players are getting suspended not for HGH, but for banned substances which aren't always HGH or PEDs but a masking agent used to hide HGH use.

    So what if Pacquiao isn't on HGH but some other PED? Jim is nuts if he thinks that the only thing Pacquiao is possibly on is HGH.