Divac: Regarding JMM Bradley testing

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  1. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They both were looking for the KO and had expressed so prior to the fight.

    Pac was getting tired of getting what most people thought were gifts
    and JMM was tired of getting robbed.
     
  2. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bullcrap!!!! PED's in the form of steroids or whatever athleletes nowdays take to improve performance is not a ****ing step to improve sports.

    If you're an athlete and are repeatedly getting injured, then your body is telling you something. "You're ****ing overexherting me!"
    Your body cant handle it naturally, take up something else for a living, whatever activity is causing these injuries is not for you.

    You're essentially telling us its ok to take doctor prescribed steroids to heal the body. I say if you're competing at a proffessional level and need PED's to heal, then you should drop the sport as a profession.

    Proffesional fighyters are getting bigger and stronger and exherting more energy than ever before. If you legalize PED's of some form in boxing, boxers as a whole will become more destructive and dangerous with their fists. The physical body is reeking the rewards of the PED's, but what of the brain of the fighter?????
    That on an average will take more forcefull pounding fight after fight and training camp after training camp.
    What becomes of these fighters brains in the long term????

    Oh thats right, they take a beating regardless, so let it be. What a little more hurt dose to the human brain as long as physical performance is improved and we get to see more fists flying in the form of more action packed fights. :nut:nut:nut

    .......and you think fighters of yesteryear are punch drunk? Wait ti'll you get a hold of a generation gone by of fighters who've taken punishment in a PED era!!!:-(
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Let boxing sit with their arms crossed as there will always be cheaters!
    Thats like saying nobody in this internet era should take measures to firewall and protect their businesses online as there will alwas be hackers! :nut:lol:
     
  5. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Before Marquez fought Pac, the last fight, Marquez hired the world's top steroid expert, by far, as his conditioning coach and everyone knew it. The steroid expert is also the top expert at cheating on drug tests. This person testified in court against his own so-called friends to keep from going to prison. It was all over the news......................wonder if Marquez still has that cheat on his payroll?
     
  6. TiltyNose

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    Only multi-national corporations should take measures to protect their businesses, right?

    Have you figured out an explanation for those sprinters?
    You really should, if you try to push that testing for boxers.

    Anyone?
     
  7. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl:patsch
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Do you even have a ****ing brain or are you just here to troll?

    Each Business takes care of their own. If the tiny mom and pop business has the financial means to protect their business, guess what they're going to do???
    The same goes for boxing, if the promotions has the financial means to to hire labs to test, guess what they should do????
    This is'nt rocket science, you dont have to be Einstein to understand the program.
    It wont be financially feasible to test club fighters who are making just a few thousand for fight. The testing would cost more than what the fighter would make.

    You dont put halt to everything alltogether because everyone cant afford to be tested. Test those that can afford.

    As for your sprinters, did'nt bother to see the video, but I'm assuming you think that the Jamaican team are cheats.
    I would'nt doubt it for a second.
    Even with a system in place, athletes will find a way around it.
    Lance Armstrong did and it was'nt because the testers had'nt caught up, that that may have been partly the reason. The Armstrong case had lookouts and snitches in place so that the cyclist knew exactly when and where they were testing and took the steps necessary to pass those tests.

    There is alway going to be those that try to beat the system, but the system should'nt just drop everything alltogether and give up because there are those that will tryo to beat their system. THe system allways has to work to improve itself to deter the athlete from making the attempt to cheat.
    Its working in baseball where the homerun totals have dropped dramatically since McGuire, Sosa, and Bonds went on record breaking streaks.
    Still there are those that will want to cheat the system, but as a whole, the system in place in baseball is deterring many there. Plenty are getting caught. PED labs are being discovered!

    Let the "stop the PED train" keep chugging along and at least deter if not get rid of all these PED athletes alltogether!!!

    CHOOOO CHOOOO!!!!!!
     
  9. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    :lol: At most they'll deter a very small percentage. Get rid of PEDs in sports? Yeah, ****ing right... Just like the war on drugs has gotten rid of all the drugs on the street.
     
  10. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Like I said, homeruns dropped dramatically once a better PED testing system was put in place in baseball.
    There are still cheats out there beating the system. If the system stays on top of it and accepts that they're not full proof, they'll advance their methods to catch these cheats and eventually a great many will be caught.
    You dont shut down the best system there is to catch cheats just because a few are a step ahead of the system.

    No question the best sytem of testing is better than no system at all.

    Got to make the penalty for those to get caught harsh. Like a 2 or 3 year ban for the first offense, and beyond that for offenses after.

    If the boxer knows the penalty is steep, that in itself is a deterrence.
     
  11. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is taking organic supplements a step towards improving sports? How about when they introduced nutrition science. .....sports medicine or other enhancements the world of sports has adopted over the course of time?

    All athletes suffer from injuries and most compete with injuries......so if you think an injury or reoccurring injury is a sign from the boxing Gods your silly.:lol:

    Of course you are the majority. ....most feel the way you do about this topic.....but like alcohol and now weed....time, knowledge and educating folks on reality helps produce change. 20 yrs ago if you came out saying there's medicinal purposes for weed you'd be hit up with a lot of these. :nut:nut

    The whole argument about PEDs making the sport of boxing more dangerous is like saying bigger gloves make the sport safer.

    Bigger gloves allows fighters to sustain punishment over longer periods of time.....increasing the chances of brian injuries. ...decreasing the likelihood of a qick ending.

    A KO is much safer than a 12 round beating.

    If what you say is true.....and PEDs make a punch that much harder....then we'll have less brutal fights that go the distance. .....meaning fighters will take less punishment. There are ways to make the sport safer but ultimately the boxers know that the hurt business has a lot of risks. It's why there's not many people who make it their career.
     
  12. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really? :roll::lol:
     
  13. cuchulain

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    Mostly a load of drivel.

    The coloured parts are the most obviously factually wrong.

    The rest is opinion, and fairly hare-brained at that.


    Applying the eye-test to both fighters, it would seem much more likely that Marquez was roided than Pac.

    That said, I don't believe either man has used PEDs.
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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  15. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Professional fighyters are getting bigger and stronger and exherting more energy than ever before.:patsch:rofl

    Just log off..