DLH vs. Kostya Tzsyu @ 140 peak to peak.

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  1. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :yikes :yikes :yikes :yikes :yikes

    Wow, you guys really hate on Oscar "i was a complete beast @ 140 and Tzysu had the perfect style for me to knock out" De La Hoya!!!!

    Im sorry Tzysu has my respect but prime DLH kills him, Tzysu would have tried to fight DLH flat footed and DLH would have just eaten him up.... Tzysu had power but nothing that would have hurt DLH, he had accuracy but at 140 DLH was very fast and strong, and if Kostya was depending on that DLH would have knocked him out no question.:deal
     
  2. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    If Tszyu lands that right hand flush, and it's not out of the question due to his great timing, anybody could be hurt....De La Hoya included.
     
  3. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Oscar was always wide open to be hit with right hand too, as he leans his head forwards when he jabs. Kostya would have gone right hand happy in this one, and tagged Oscar a lot with it. Bot have their respective strengths. Kostya, like most European fighters, isn't as effective when guys don't give him room for his power. De la hoya would win the exchanges on the inside with his superior combinations. However, Oscar is often not effective with his pressure. He isn't like Hatton who gets right in on your chest, and often times sits back at jabbing range, waiting to come in behind his punches. This would suit Kostya perfectly, and I see him just being to accurate for Oscar. Oscar had a very good chin at 140 though, and would be tough to hurt. I can see this being an exciting war, and a fairly close fight. The fact that Kostya had one of the best fight hands we have seen in the past decade though, and that De la hoya was always open to this punch means I have to go with Kostya on this one.
     
  4. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    DLH by late TKO. Oscar's jab, footwork, and workrate get him out of early trouble.

    And Oscar's left hook is very powerful.
     
  5. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd lean towards Oscar.

    It would by no means be an easy fight for Oscar. Tszyu was an intelligent fighter with a good sense of distance and timing. He used to have pretty good handspeed as well. He was good at timing quick fighters, especially lefties, which Oscar is not (or doesn't fight southpaw stance). His straight right hand was great, and that punch more than any other is the one Oscar's most suspectible to.

    Tszyu didn't have very good head movement. He had decent defensive skills, but would still be a target for Oscar's great left hand. DLH is also quicker of hand and foot. I think DLH's jab would be very key, and be the main weapon in winning a close decision.
     
  6. standing 8

    standing 8 Active Member Full Member

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    De La Hoya by decision.
     
  7. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Its a tough fight to call. Oscar had pretty quick hand speed at 140, quicker then KT anyway. Most times Oscar could be pretty flat footed though (bar the Trinidad fight) and this would allow Kostya to really time him well and play into his hands. Oscar would most probably take the earlier rounds, but I can see Kostya landing more and more as the bout goes on, and his power starting to take his toll. Regardless of how good your chin is, getting hit with that sort of power will still wear you down.
     
  8. Svengali

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    ODLH.

    Not even close.
     
  9. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whats the counter to a straight right?

    A left hook... Who had the best left hook at 140 if not the entire biz during lets say '98?

    DLH, specially at that weight class where DLH had speed?

    Besides, DLH has an underrated defense, head movement, and specially chin. So the chances of landing flush are too freakish to actually happen.
     
  10. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Kostya never struggled with Hurtardo for one. He got wreckless, before going on to dominate him and finish him early. Urkal was more because he was so physically strong, same with Phillips. Kostya had problems against these guys because he wouldn't fight smart and out box them and counter punch, but would rather try to out muscle them. Kostya was stronger then Oscar, and it wouldn't have been a problem. Oscar isn't a fighter in the same mould as these guys either.
     
  11. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And who had the best straight right in the business?

    I think that anyone, EITHER WAY, that can state either guy would win easy is quite simply, an idiot. Blind to the abilities of either fighter.
     
  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is a pick'em fight.

    Oscar was just a tad more polished. Either guy has KO possibility, Kostya moreso.

    If it ended inside the distance, It would probably have been a victory for Kostya. I tend to think it would have gone the distance with Oscar getting a very close and controversial decision.
     
  13. Napoleon

    Napoleon Smokin' Full Member

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    Amersterdam, that is a terrific avatar. :good

    Tszyu by stoppage.
     
  14. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    IMO both guys are flat footed and both have good chins. Oscar could move, as could Kostya, but both where more effective when they really sat down on their punches. Oscar would be the better mover IMO, but not enough to trouble KT at all. I think that Oscar would probably plant the feet and look to throw combinations inside and land that left hook. Both guys would be looking to time each other.
     
  15. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    right on the mark sweet pea:good