Hi guys was just thinking about all the bad decisions in boxing recently and someone said a lot of can be down judges being influenced by the crowd and also the judges only get to see the action from one side of the ring and can miss some action. Well it made me think do judges even need to be ringside? Is there a reason for this or is it just tradition? Wouldn't it make more sense to have each judge in a room somwhere in the building or arena with monitors in front of them showing the fight from a the view of the viewer at home because let's face it that's the best view you can have. They would have headphones on so they couldn't hear commentry and at the end of each round send a message to a ringside official with there score for each round. This seems a really obvious solution to the crowd influencing side of things and I bet less mistakes would happen with scoring rounds.
Well why even have judges... Just have a forum go-er watch the fight in slow-motion and count punch for punch to determine the winner There are lots of bad decisions but not enough to require a full overhaul of the judging system...
What's the point of having them removed from the influence of the crowd, to give them headphones and access to comentary and to be influenced by that instead.
You mis read what I said, have them wear headphones so they cannot hear commentary. Just watching the fights in silence
Not if it's a Burger Squad or Haymon fight they already have the fix in. In the case of Wilder, the ref already does the work for them and premature stops the fight or the opponents just lie down
I guess you could try a new system like a more complex compubox. You cold score highest to lowest points: Power Punches Jabs Total Punches trown as workrate Blocked/Missed - as defensive Minutes/Percentage walking opponent down/Controling Center of the ring = Ring Generalship Deducting points for faults, clinching, headbuts, hit back of the head, punch to the kidney while clinching, etc. etc.
why use judges? have an array of sensitive thermal cameras and sensors above and around the ring that will detect sudden temperature changes on body surfaces that would indicate a hard punch landed, than have a computer checked if it landed in a scoring zone or not. voila get a computer to recognise hugging too and deduct points when overused.. hahaha
I vaguely recall a trial where judges sat ringside but elevated above the apron - so they had a wider view. Supposedly promising results but nothing ever came of it. Personally I don't think the scoring system is utterly broken. But I would prefer more split rounds or 1/2 points awarded to minimise the number of evenly contested fights with massively unbalanced scorecards. Noise - cancelling headphones would be a good idea - supposedly around 70-80% of home advantage in football is ref's decisions being influenced by crowd pressure (found by getting refs to reassess games from tv footage). I'd be surprised if a similar effect was not at work in boxing.
and a running parameter that automatically deducts points if a boxer takes more than 2 consecutive backward steps.
the bigger issue is forum members that go by whatever hbo or showtime can say. and call robberies to close decisions
damn...you beat me to it. can't believe you and me think the same about this. 3 judges is not enough...need to have at least the same number of judges they use for gymnastics or diving or even figure skating. some of those sports have seven judges...and they get scored on a number of different criteria. criteria matters, because it helps to make it less subjective. the other thing they need to do is stop using the 10 point must system the way it is now....calling every round 10-9 just because there was no kd makes no sense....calling a round 10-8 simply because there was a kd makes no sense. we all know there's been a lotta fights where a guy gets kd'd and ends up doing better than his opponent in that round and it's 10-8. ...then there's rounds where a guy gets beat from pillar to post and it's scored 10-9 because he didn't get dropped. no point in having 10 points if you only use one or two.