Do you believe that IN GENERAL, fighters from previous eras were superior?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Slyk, Mar 21, 2012.

Page 5 of 10
  1. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Messages:
    7,057
    Likes Received:
    5
    I saw Sugar Ray Robinson in Raging Bull and he was grossly overrated. He could barely handle Robert De Niro.
     
    Duck Dodgers, Mar 21, 2012
    #61
  2. Swedish81

    Swedish81 Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2005
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    4
    I actually think it's easier to see the difference in team sports than in some individual competitions. The pace of todays game is what usually stands out.
     
    Swedish81, Mar 21, 2012
    #62
  3. qwertyuiop[]

    qwertyuiop[] Guest

    those sports have remained essentially the same as they always were and the best exponents do not avoid facing their peers, meaning there is a system that encourages development and progress. boxing has changed for the worse in many ways: it has sprouted endless divisions and titles, shortened its fights, built a system in which the best avoid fighting the best and, if they do fight each other, often do it when well past their peak and often do not develop long rivalries. it's a different sport, one that prioritises the showcasing of talented fighters against lesser fighters in place of pitting the best against the best.
     
    qwertyuiop[], Mar 21, 2012
    #63
  4. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2005
    Messages:
    42,079
    Likes Received:
    3,670
    And Eddie Mustafa Muhammad almost lost against a guy going in the tank.
     
    Thread Stealer, Mar 21, 2012
    #64
  5. DrMo

    DrMo Team GB Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    22,198
    Likes Received:
    24
    :lol: Translation: I only watch the Klitsckos & dksab
     
    DrMo, Mar 21, 2012
    #65
  6. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2011
    Messages:
    7,260
    Likes Received:
    0
    X2

    Here are today's rated fighters that I think could have competed and had decent success in any era of Boxing. Note that I am not saying that they would have been a Champion in the era of one belt, but they would have been competitive with just about anybody. It isn't a long list....

    Wlad Klitschko
    Vitali Klitschko
    Bernard Hopkins
    Andre Ward
    Money May
    Pacman
    Erik Morales
    JMM
    Rafael Marquez
    Nonito Donaire
     
    MetalMandible, Mar 21, 2012
    #66
  7. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2008
    Messages:
    5,436
    Likes Received:
    141
    Another fallacy. Plenty of fighters were ducked in the golden era.

    I love history and no other sport has a more impressive past then boxing, but whitewashing history is wrong.

    It seems a lot of wannabe boxing 'experts' earn their badge by slagging of this era. Juts buy the 'Arc of boxing' book and start jerking off to it.
     
    RSBonos, Mar 21, 2012
    #67
  8. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2008
    Messages:
    5,436
    Likes Received:
    141
    lol at this reasoning. If the American supermen don't dominate no one will.
     
    RSBonos, Mar 21, 2012
    #68
  9. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    17,809
    Likes Received:
    3,695
    Wladmir TKO rd 4 Muhammad ali
     
    Forza, Mar 21, 2012
    #69
  10. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2010
    Messages:
    9,299
    Likes Received:
    5,208
    If only the people who voted Yes and the people who voted No were separated...
     
    Slyk, Mar 21, 2012
    #70
  11. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2010
    Messages:
    6,843
    Likes Received:
    197
    What you are saying has nothing to do with the quality of fighters. Boxing as an entertainment has little to do with the actual sport of boxing. Boxing as a sport followed the pattern of all other sports. Boxing as an entertainment venue has its ups and downs. For example, there are no marketable US heavyweights so it is perceived that heavyweight division is in the decline but the reality is that heavyweight boxing does not get the marketing dollars to keep people's eyes on it.
     
    bremen, Mar 21, 2012
    #71
  12. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2006
    Messages:
    4,499
    Likes Received:
    10
    the new generation is always better than the old one....if not humanity would not progress....
     
    hooligan, Mar 21, 2012
    #72
  13. Elliot

    Elliot Boxing Addict banned

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2012
    Messages:
    5,304
    Likes Received:
    0
    No way, this time is alot more advance than back then, yeah boxing was more entertaining in the past but that was because they were overall worse, if you put everyone together most champions at the moment would still be bar a few exeptions
     
    Elliot, Mar 21, 2012
    #73
  14. PivotPunch

    PivotPunch Guest

    Better boxers? No. Better athletes? No. But they were better fighters :deal
     
    PivotPunch, Mar 21, 2012
    #74
  15. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Messages:
    22,479
    Likes Received:
    14
    No. There's the great, the good and the bad in every era. Time has a way of making you appreciate what you had, more than what you have. I do it now; I don't see the new crop being as good as the Jones/Mosley/DLH/Trinidad/Mayweather/Pacquaio group that came before it. Just human nature I guess.
     
    SJS19, Mar 21, 2012
    #75
Page 5 of 10