Do you blame Maskaev for wanting the typical 75%-25% split?

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  1. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    i say 75/25 is ridiculous in any championship fight. 65/35 should be max:good 60/40 is the most realistic option and if its higher than 65/35, it shouldnt be a CHAMpionship event.
     
  2. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's a recent interview where Dino Duva talks. They ask him about the problems with the split purse and the problems about Don King promoting the fight. He doesn't answer with facts, he only says that Rappaport is crazy, but his response does not have substance because he knows he is wrong and that...1) King shouldn't be able to promote that fight in the first place and 2) Maskaev should get more than 55%.
     
  3. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Thanks for answering my question with an answer that actually makes some sense.

    Okay, if Peter was a voluntary the split would be 75-25% but since he's the mandatory isn't more like 65-35 or at least 60-40? You'd probably know more than us :yep

    I think 55-35% is giving Peter more star power than he's actually earned IMO. I mean both fighters have highlight reel material KO's over their opponents so what makes Peter so special?

    Sam Peter has yet to KO a top 10 Heavy, Oleg has on several occasions.
     
  4. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Dino Duva won the right to make this fight. Don King came in second and then Duva defaulted to DKP to promote the fight. I believe this was well within their rights to do so as DKP was second anyhow.

    Then the WBC made the ruling of the 55/35 split. Based entirely on the fact that A) Sam Peter had to fight 2 eliminators and B) Sam Peter waited through negotiations of a Klitschko-Maskaev fight.

    Rappaport knew of the 55/45 split MONTHS ago, and the following excerpt takes note of it.

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    The quote was initially taken from www.fightnews.com but is posted currently at http://www.boxnews.com.ua/news.php?id=3385&lng=en

    Rappaport and Maskaev now have raised some new beef, no doubt in hopes to once again put this fight on hold. It is actually no surprise to me now that they only went forward with the purse bid because they could no longer hold it up there. Now the charlatans are back in action again trying to delay the inevitable.

    The WBC needs to end this now and force Maskaev to sign the contract or face being stripped. Enough is enough already.
     
  5. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope utter bull**** no fighter today can demand a 75- 25 especially when you consider his name is no bigger then Peter's.
     
  6. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Nice work. It sheds some light on why the WBC would grant such a large chunk to the challenger. I still don't agree with the percentage though, it seems a bit extreme for only beating Toney, once convincingly.
     
  7. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Well think about it like this.

    You fight a mandatory, and you suspect immediately your next fight will be for a championship. That fight even though a 35% split for you will probably be higher than fighting someone else. Lo and behold you are set to face the same guy again, with a similar purse. Ok, so you lost a bit of money there, not just whatever was smaller in the purse itself, but also the second sanctioning fee.

    But then you step aside months so two other guys can work out a deal to fight for the title you just earned the shot at 2 times over. Those are months lost you could have been fighting yet again.

    So essentially this mess has cost you 2 sanctioning fees, one purse which wasn't as big as the purse that you should have shared a split in, and then months of inactivity where nobody is getting paid. Yet you still have to pay trainers, etc.

    Sam Peter has likely been paying people out of his pocket ever since this garbage started. I remember a comment from Hasim Rahman about what he had to pay out of hand when Vitlay Klitschko made him wait.

    The 55-45% sounds like justice to me.
     
  8. diamondDave

    diamondDave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There should be no question on this one...Maskaev koed Rahman who held the WBC belt...therefore he should recieve the typical champions share for the defense...the story might be different if Maskaev was just declared the belt holder or won the title when it was vacant...but he didn't he beat the man who had the title!
     
  9. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    I don't see why Maskaev should be held accountable for the fact that Peter had to fight Toney twice.
     
  10. avk47

    avk47 King Full Member

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    No I do not blame Oleg. He trod a long and hard path to the title, and he earned every little reward that comes with it. Oleg is a sensible man who is just trying to get his due, and to fulfill his duties by providing for his family. I just hope he doesn't get ****ed over for doing so.
     
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    avk47 King Full Member

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    and moreover, this would be one of his last fights. Maskaev is putting his health on the line and he wants to cash to the highest possible extent.
     
  12. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah man. Maskaev deserves atleast one significant payday to set himself and his family up for the rest of their lives. People just dismiss him as a bum, yet they ignore the fact that's he's been thrown to the dogs quite a bit in his career. For ****'s sake, they threw him to Oliver McCall in only his seventh pro fight! I think it's safe to say that Maskaev's been used quite a bit throughout his career, and through it all has accomplished the unthinkable.

    Maskaev has more to lose out of this deal, so he wants to get as much out of it as he can. Sam Peter on the other hand is the industry's little golden boy, and has practically every big-shot in the sport backing him up.
     
  13. avk47

    avk47 King Full Member

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    Exactly, which is why I admire the man. He was used badly and rediculously overmatched too early on. I think at his best Maskaev was very talented and could have gone a lot further had his management actually cared about his career. Fights like the Tua one show Maskaev boxing very well and then being stopped. I used to think he just wasn't blessed with a good chin, but then if you look at him he has a thick neck and a square jaw, and moreover, he has taken some big shots and remained standing. I think how he was rushed just broke down his confidence while he was still young, and made him freeze when being clocked. He needed to get older to overcome it, and that he didn't give up and achieved his dream is incredible.
     
  14. Shpion

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    I posted the same comment earlier and nobody wanted to address it. WBC should compensate OM for the incompetence. I am no OM fan by any means and actualy prefer for Peter to beat him if they actualy meet, but if this situation was vice versa where Peter would be getting 55/45 being a champ, the media and some people on this board would be screaming racism and all kinds of other different rubbish.
     
  15. avk47

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    And in terms of boxing, a young Maskaev was more talented than Peter, and he can and could punch too, I don't know how hard relative to Peter, but he is definitly a puncher. If Oleg had his career built up like Peter's was, he'd have been fighting for titles much earlier.