Do you consider Vitali a quitter for quitting against the feather-fisted Chris Byrd?

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  1. Rui

    Rui Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And you're a dumbass who lacks the mental capacity to compare the different situations that guys like De La Hoya, Tyson, Brewster, Peter were under compared with Vitali.

    Vitali could very well be the first fighter in history to quit on his stool with only 3 rounds left when he has a shutout going against a featherfisted opponent. Vitali is indeed in elite company in terms of his quitting credentials.

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  2. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali quitting in this fight was justified because he suffered a severely torn rotator cuff. There is legitimate reason to believe that if the fight continued, the injury may have worsened to the point where it could not be completely repaired by surgery.

    Further, there is reason to believe that if the fight continued, Vitali might not have been able to use his arm at all.

    Based on what we know about Vitali's fighting character, it is preposterous to claim that he is a quitter, or a coward.
     
  3. la-pantera

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    my name is la-pantera and i approve this message.
     
  4. JonOli

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    Stupid ass post Maxi.

    I would really like to see what kind of fighter you are. Ever hold a belt? Ever even fight? Ever played any sports?

    Some people on this site are amazing.
     
  6. AlexK

    AlexK Active Member Full Member

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    No, I consider him smart.
     
  7. Russkie

    Russkie Active Member Full Member

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    1. Duh! That means Vitali didn't have anything to prove in his mind (I proved I can beat this guy but my arm's wrecked so I better stop)

    2. Versus - I'm getting beat up, but if I hang in here he might get tired or I might nail him with a great shot and turn this around ... no, there's no point in trying at this point

    personally I have to respect all boxers, but situation 2 is the only one where quittng/not quitting proves anything
     
  8. H .

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    Not to avoid further injury in a single bout, nope. At the time, it seemed pathetic to many people, but I think Vitali made up for it. I mean, look at his rank in the heavyweight division now.
     
  9. Russkie

    Russkie Active Member Full Member

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    Generally I agree, but if you value 'heart', then perservering to try to land a hayemaker shows more heart and bravery

    Assuming he could run for 9 minutes without aggravating the injury, maybe in his eyes that's less honorable than withdrawing. If he can't fight his fight, then withdraw to fight another day. He obviously didn't fear Byrd. He might have feared for his career, but that's rational

    By the way, why don't you impress us with your own personal tales of bravery?
     
  10. Rui

    Rui Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What kind of bull**** logic is this? Last time I checked, a championship fight was 12 rounds, not 9. He had to prove that he could fight for 9 minutes in the face of adversity and Klitschko failed miserably.

    That's diametrically different from my scenario. Peter/Klitschko and Brewster/Klitschko were clear examples of Peter and Brewster tiring while both Klitschkos were getting stronger. Not to mention that you could very well tell that both Peter and Brewster could not land anything and they were essentially taking meaningless punches in a fight they could not win.

    Compare this to Vitali's quitjob against Byrd in which he was 9 minutes from certain victory and he quit like a dog.
     
  11. Rui

    Rui Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What a ridiculous notion. Quitting, especially if you're ahead on points against a feather-fisted fighter, is a much greater sin in boxing than running in the last few rounds with an injury.

    Stop being so biased and actually use some objective reasoning.
     
  12. Scorpion

    Scorpion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :patsch Oh stfu!
    Your sitting behind a screen safely while pretending a torn rotator is nothing?
    Listen, tomorrow rip your rotator cuff and fight someone who weights about 215 pounds and is the heavyweight champ and tell me how you do ok?
     
  13. Russkie

    Russkie Active Member Full Member

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    He had to prove that he was the better fighter on that night, and he was well on the way to doing so when he got injured. He knows it goes down as a loss but in his mind he knows he owns Byrd.

    Diametrically opposed? :lol: What about Wlad / Brewster I ? Before Brewster turned it around, it looked like the same scenaro.

    I say again: impress us all with your own examples of bravery, so we see where you're coming from when you insult these fighters
     
  14. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    are you trying to convince us that hes a quitter, or are you just trying to justify your hate for him. you seem passionate on trying to make people think hes a quitter. imo tho if he was a quitter he wouldnt have been bugging out when the doc stopped the lewis fight.
     
  15. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Rui is easily right next to Jack as the two biggest ******s ever in esb forum. This guy is saying Vitali is truely a quitter cause he loss to Byrd? Does rua knows that rip rotator cuff is a very painful injury that could ruined a fighter career? And if Vitali is a quitter then fighters like Lewis, Johnson, Sanders, Peter, Gomez should have make Vitali quit as well. But i guess since other fighters didn't means Lewis who is a future hall of a famer is a disgrace cause even though he won by tko, he didn't make Vitali quit? Rui, you're a ****** biased hater that needs to get punch in the face after this ******ed thread.