Do You Endorse Blood Testing ?

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  1. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Uhm no.

    That is not how you detect blood doping. Blood testing allows you to detect red blood levels but it does not tell you if that is artificially or naturally raised.
     
  2. fan johnny

    fan johnny Active Member Full Member

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    Oh yea? I'm so impressed you can use google. So then why make any arguments otherwise? Just provide the info in Layman's terms so people understand what the fuk you're talking about. "Just say there's more blood red cells in the body than normal and EPO is just a trigger to boost red blood production."

    It's an absolutely pointless discussion because synthetic EPO use in sports has already been obsolete for over two years now. That synthetic **** makes the blood to thick in the veins and causes the heart to have to pump harder. Nobody with a nutritionist on staff would even think of of letting their ward use synthetic EPO, when there are so many natural ways of increasing natural EPO. Google that.


     
  3. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Eh? Didn't Contador get caught blood doping by urinalysis????

    The French sports daily L'Equipe reported Friday that the German lab that found a tiny amount of the banned drug clenbuterol in Contador's urine sample also found plastic residues of the kind that might turn up after a transfusion of blood from a plastic bag.


    From ESPN:

    A urine sample taken from three-time Tour de France winner Alberto Contador showed abnormally high levels of plastic residues that could indicate he received a transfusion of his own blood during this year's race, a person with knowledge of the test results told The Associated Press on Tuesday.


    In other tests:

    The researchers studied three groups of people; a control group comprising 100 individuals with no special exposure to the plasticizer DEHP, ten hospitalised patients receiving transfusion and 468 athletes. Researchers concluded that “significantly increased levels of secondary DEHP metabolites were found in urine samples of transfused patients, strongly indicating blood transfusion.”
     
  4. Jetmax

    Jetmax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. People here have no clue(?) to the significance of different testing samples. Several people have already posted similar materials but it gets ignored, deliberately imo.
     
  5. eko718

    eko718 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't need to google what I know. Perhaps you are the one Googling your information or simply parroting what you have heard because you seem to have an incomplete knowledge of the matter.

    I guess I was inaccurate with that.
     
  6. sailor pops

    sailor pops miam! vice Full Member

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    Impressive. But not good enough. Hair testing seems to be a very promising way to test for drug abuse in a longer time period.

    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_analysis[/ame]
     
  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's issues with hair follicle testing as well and it can't catch everything either. This is the point where it's repeated that falling in love with any one form of testing is myopic. They should probably do all three like they do in Cycling currently. Then again... they were never able to catch Armstrong so lolz anyways.
     
  8. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    The self proclaimed internet medical student eko718 is at it again. Talking out of his ass as usual. ****er makes a bold as claim then turns right around and says he doesn't have to prove anything to back up his claim that he's a medical student and knows more then anyone else here.

    First the ****er talks about EPO. Then claims he never mentioned it. When I showed him his post he starts the "who are you to question me". Now he's an expert on blood dooping. ****er doesn't know jack ****. He tried to make himself creditable by claiming he's a medical student. :rofl:rofl
     
  9. eko718

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    This statement clearly reveals you are parroting information. EPO only triggers blood cell production. Synthetic or natural is irrelevant to blood thickness.
     
  10. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Too hard.

    There needs to be a unified authority on boxing before there can be a uniform drug testing policy.

    If you can use Xyloacine in Nevada and not Texas then there's holes to exploit.

    It needs to also be an INTERNATIONAL authority ala FIFA or something otherwise it just can't work or be fair.
     
  11. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    People don't want hair analysis, because Floyd isn't asking for hair analysis.

    They want blood because Floyd wants blood.

    Who cares about the quality or validity or usefulness of the testing? If Floyd wants it, then they want it too.
     
  12. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ding ding ding, and we have the winner by KO in post number 191!!!
     
  13. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Didn't you know. He's a medical student who's knowledge on ped is greater then anyone here. Yet the ****er can't prove **** or come up with one drug name. He claims there are EPO that are so effective it works within 14 to 7 days.

    I've been asking his self proclaim medical student ass for the name of the drug. He has yet to answer it.
     
  14. sailor pops

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    Hair testing gives you the overall picture if an athlete is juicing or not for extended periods of time. I agree that the combination of several testing procedures is the best way to tacle cheaters.

    About Lance Armstrong, his case is very suspect. His pal Floyd Llandis confirmed that Armstrong was an EPO and blood transfusion user. A french lab detected EPO abuse in one of Armstrong urine samples a few years ago but this was dismissed because Lance's lawyers argued that the testing procedures weren't perfect. But it's only a matter of time before he will get caught.
     
  15. eko718

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    Look at this dickhead crawling from under a rock. What exactly is it that you know lobk? Apparently, one thing you don't know is how to read. I never 'claimed I didn't mention EPO'; in fact, I EMPHASIZED to you that EPO is exactly what I mentioned ******.:-( I'm not like you. I don't seek approval from random strangers on forums; there's no need for me to lie or seek credibility.

    I by no means am an 'expert' on all the methods used in regards to PED's, or blood doping. I am however well enough educated on such matters to speak with more accuracy than people such as yourself, which is the only thing I claimed from the beginning. I speak from actual knowledge, not internet research.

    This whole post above is pulled completely out of your ass.