Do you really think Joshua goes 3 fights without getting stopped by Wilder?

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Would Joshua go 3 fights without getting stopped by prime Wilder?

  1. No, he would get clipped and stopped at some point in 3 fights

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  2. Yes, he would survive all 3 fights

    17 vote(s)
    27.9%
  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is a fighter in Joshua who was stopped by Andy Ruiz, KO'd and completely outboxed by Dubois, nearly stopped by a 41 year old Klitschko, and has had his bell rung by Povetkin, Whyte, pretty much any top 10 guy he's ever faced.

    Joshua does not have good defense, especially at the top level. Do you REALLY think he would be able to go 3 full fights without getting clipped by a prime Deontay Wilder?

    Looking at the history, Joshua is in there with prime Wilder 3x, he's absolutely getting clipped at some point. When Joshua gets hurt he has some of the worst recuperative powers seen in the sport. I think he's losing at least one, probably 2 of the fights.
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing

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    This is a Deontay Wilder who doesn't impress against a guy named Tyrrell Herndon...

    ...and didn't impress much in his prime against Eric Molina.
     
  3. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder hit hard enough to end anybody, showed a ton of heart in losing efforts, wasn’t afraid to go out on his shield.

    AJ hits hard enough to end anybody, showed a ton of heart in losing efforts, wasn’t afraid to go out on his shield.

    Except AJ is far better at actually boxing.

    you really think Wilder can go three fights without getting stopped by a guy in his power class who is flat out better than him? (No, I don’t think AJ hits quite as hard as Wilder, but it’s an irrelevant difference, either hits hard enough to one shot anybody with the right punch).
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Against this version of Wilder, probably.

    Against a pre-Fury version, absolutely not.
     
  5. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The question in the poll specifies PRIME Wilder.
     
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  6. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sure, I agree Wilder just doesn't have enough impressive performances against top opponents.

    Saying that he might win one of three against Joshua. I would give him a puncher's chance. In terms of power, Wilder/Joshua/Zhang/Dubois are all there, or there abouts. But I think Joshua coming into fights with Wilder, Joshua would have been too disciplined given the stakes - but with Joshua there is always the chance he gets a rush of blood to the head in the moment, loses composure, and Wilder catches him.

    Wilder
    What are his most impressive performances?
    Stiverne 1
    – he takes Wilder the distance – not a good sign to fight Joshua
    Ortiz - not exactly prime, and was lighting Wilder up before the end (ref interference saves Wilder) – not a good sign
    Breazeale – been stopped previously by Joshua, and again Breazeale was landing quite a lot on Wilder before the end, Breazeale almost beats the count too – not a good sign
    Ortiz 2 – Ortiz is landing at will round after round, before Wilder finds the finish late, Ortiz almost beats the count – not a good sign
    Fury 1, 2, and 3 – Fury has been dropped by several opponents, the issue is keeping him down, which Wilder couldn’t do. Also Fury was landing a lot on Wilder – not a good sign

    That's the thing, everyone lands a lot of Wilder before he finds his finish. He can't afford that with Joshua.

    Joshua
    What are his worst performances?
    Ruiz 1
    – Joshua couldn’t handle the fast hands of Ruiz. It should be noted Joshua landed flush on Ruiz, whereas Ruiz had never been even dropped before. Joshua makes a massive error in trying to rush in to finish Ruiz when he gets up. – Does Wilder have the chin or the hands of Ruiz? And Wilder wouldn’t be a last minute replacement fight.
    Dubois – Dubois has devastating power, but unlike Wilder is a skilled boxer. Joshua actually got up from the big overhand right. It was when he had Dubois hurt, moving him backward that Dubois found the KO punch, an uppercut. – Wilder can’t fight going backward like Dubois, and doesn’t have the punch selection of Dubois.

    I suppose Wilder has a punchers chance, but anyone who thinks he wins the series is dreaming.
     
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  7. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Prime wilder would put aj to sleep , at least he was very dangerous . Hearn protected aj from wilder at that time .
     
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  8. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The undefeated version of Wilder that Fury fought the first time around, would have clipped AJ and would have stopped him.

    The version of Wilder that we saw after the 3rd Fury was a shell of his former self. You can read down a long list of fighters who could beat that version.
     
  9. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ should beat Wilder but he could get clipped and we've seen what happens when Wilder lands.
    Over 3 fights it's going to end 2-1 to one of them. AJ for me because once you put Wilder on the back foot he struggles and AJ was good enough to do that. BUT it only takes 1 shot. The fight would have elevated both of them really. Missed opportunity.
     
  10. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both like operating at mid-range. Whoever lands the first big punch is going to win. Wilder can’t really fight on the inside, but A.J. doesn’t go in until he lands at mid-range first.
     
  11. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No

    Joshua lacks head movement

    Wilder is getting him at a certain point

    Wish they fought in their primes

    It would have been great
     
  12. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua almost certainly gets KO'd once, probably twice, maybe all three times (I give Wilder a better shot of winning 3-0 than Joshua because the first loss would have a bigger mental effect on Joshua).

    If Fury is the direct parallel, the three fights would be in America with Wilder the A-side, and that doesn't bode well for Joshua given his record in America is 0-1, choking horribly on his debut against a theoretically overmatched opponent. 2024 Dubois and 2018-2021 Wilder have different styles and attributes but they are both prime KO artists with killer instinct, which also bodes poorly for Joshua.
     
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  13. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He wouldn’t have gone one fight without getting clipped by Wilder
     
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  14. fencik45

    fencik45 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder was never man enough to fight him. He was never man enough to fight and beat a single live body.
     
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  15. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's interesting to add the caveat that all three fights take place in the US. I think that's even more of a dramatic swing in the favor of Wilder. Joshua has not once in his career proven he can hang with even a top 50 opponent in away territory. He was brutally beat up by Andy Ruiz in his first and only attempt.

    As someone else in this thread has already mentioned, if Wilder wins the first, the second and third would be very ugly for Joshua. Dancing around a near 300lb untrained Andy Ruiz at a neutral venue shows me nothing as far as rematches go. Wilder has shown he'll die for it trying to win in a rematch.
     
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