Do you think there should be two HW divisions?

Wlad has lost to guys with almost a 20 lb weight disdvantage.

I really do not see Pavlik losing to a WW.

 

So ****ing what? its the body weight percent thats the issue cocknocker! Jesus Christ your a ****ing idiot :rofl

 

Thats my point anyway. a 225lb guy trying to win a title from Wlad is like having a 147lb guy having to win a title from Pavlik. It's not fair or balanced to the big guys.

 

NO, NO, and NO! There isn't enough talent to create a 215 and under divsion. We don't need 4 more heavyweigh champions.

If your walk around weight is 210, you can still make the crusier weight cut at 200, then re-hydrate.

 

Poor reasoning huh? :huh atsch :twisted:

20lbs difference ----- divided by Wlads weight of 245lbs ==== 8.16%
13lbs difference ----- divided by Kellys weight of 160lbs ==== 8.13%

In this case Wlad is not overweight and is very skilled. So a 225lb skilled, in shape guy going up against a 245lb skilled, in shape guy.......is like Kermit Cintron having to fight Kelly Pavlik. Still think it's poor reasoning Socrates? :think

 

Valuev is a great example of someone with zero skills and speed getting by solely on his size.

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I feel you. That is the downside to what I'm saying and probably a stronger argument then the one I have. But the problem still remains that some heavyweights have to overcome a 40lb disparity agaisnt a quick, skilled and agile Wlad in order to search for greatness....when in some eras the only guys over 230lbs could barely walk and chew gum at the same time. The best guys Joe Louis had to beat were 200lbs and under, same with Marciano. This I might be killed for, but I'm gonna say it anyway. If Frazier came along in this era and had to face one of the Klits, he might........ah **** never mind, I don't feel like getting raped right now :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

 

All the Present Heavyweights Suck ass , :ban1

 

No it's not. the difference among heavyweights is not greater than that among smaller fighters.

A 225 lb. guy has beaten Wladimir in the past. Brewster was a tad over 225 in the first fight.

Chagaev weighs 228 and a match between him and Wlad is the best fight in the division.

Pavlik versus a welterweight would be a disgrace, unlike Wlad-Chagaev, which is fine.

Wlad has skills, the size is a bonus for him.

 

still you dont get the point huh

 

No but i think some of these fat ****s should loose some weight for the love of god

 

What point?

How is a 225lb heavyweight (say Brewster) fighting a 245lb Wlad different from Margarito fighting Pavlik?

Honest question though. I don't see what point I'm missing. What that a 225lb guy can hit hard enough to KO a big Heavyweight and a 147lb just can't? If thats the point, then yeah I see it :good If there is something else, educate me :deal

 

Who cares about heavyweights anyway? Lennox retired a long time ago.