Do you think we will ever see Greb?

Damn Right - whoevers got them - and I think somebody has - has without doubt put them onto at the very least disc by now - jesus I transfered everything I had on video to disc about 7 years ago - whoever has it would've transfered the absolute originals onto video tape before the onset of DVDs aswell - they definately would've tranfered everything when any new technology came along - thats what everyone has done - so they will be saved no doubt about it - I think probably both Tunney & Walker fights are out there - and the Robby-Gavilan fight for that matter as well - hell another Langford fight (vs Jeanette) turned up on a French Pathe website recently as well - these things are definately out there

 

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She watched him walking down the street from her bedroom window...and she was impressed and pleased.

 

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I find it very strange that no footage of someone who was World Middleweight champion does not exist or has not surfaced over the years, especially when you consider how much footage exists of so many of his contemporaries and fighters who fought in the decades before him

Very curious

 

Could his style maybe have something to do with it?

Perhaps he was an ugly,mauling brawler (all be it an ultra effective one) whose style simply wasn't attractive to fans whether live or on film,hence why no footage was kept or archived.

Like you I find it strange that a man who fought so often has zero footage whereas fighters who only fought only a fraction of the fights Greb did whilst fighting a fair bit earlier ie Johnson,Ketchel,Corbett etc still have surviving film.

It's quite strange.

 

A grand conspiracy perhaps???

 

Its not that strange. It really only seems like a lot of footage from this era exists when in reality probably not even half of what was filmed still exists. Keep in mind that nothing exists on Johnny Wilson, or Tiger Flowers either, who preceeded and succeeded Greb as MW champ. The only footage we have of Al McCoy is a short clip of one round of his title losing effort. You could really go on and on but outside of the HW division (and even there we have a lot missing) its tough to find a lot of fight films until the 1950s or so when television really started taking off.

 

Yes...I find it beyond incredible..I've almost got a conspiratorial view about it, the more I think about it...NO footage at all???? Can't believe it...something is very fishy about it...

 

I have finally solved the question why there is no footage of Harry Greb...
He was too fast to film !!!

 

Just as strange as no filmage of Harry Greb, is there is no footage of Maxie Rosenbloom
who had 299 fights, and fought his prime bouts in the early 1930s..They have films
of all the other Champs and top contenders of Greb and Rosenbloom's era, but not
them...Truth is stranger than fiction !

 

Maxie Rosenbloom another non-puncher also has no surviving footage??

My theory (although based on nothing but suspicion) about fighters who weren't that appealing to watch simply not worth being filmed is gaining legs.

 

Griff, if that was the case then Tommy Gibbons, Tunney, Loughran , all fighters who Greb fought several times were filmed..They were along with Mickey Walker top attractions...
Maxey Rosenblooms opponents such as Slattery,Leo Lomski,Mickey Walker, Braddock,etc ,were filmed, but not Rosenbloom, who was considered a colorful fighter..
Benny Leonard, the Ray Robinson of his time was filmed just once, against southpaw Lew Tendler .
Strange events...

 

You're right Burt it's probably just one of those strange anomalies that boxing throws up.

For example in Australia I've seen a bit of Les Darcy fight and training footage which isn't hard to find but have only just seen Dave Sands footage for the first time even though Sands fought 45 years later in one of boxings golden era's.Sands footage is really hard to find for a non-historian.

It really is quite arbitrary who was and wasn't filmed back in Greb and Maxie's time.

 

Leonard was filmed more than once. In fact three fights of his exist and others were filmed.

 

There's footage of McClarnin-Leonard and Leonard-Tendler isn't there?

Was the Charley White fight also filmed?