Does GGG have the weakest "RUN" of 160 champs in recent memory?

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Ok, but he had already beaten JDJ and Glen Johnson - and both of those names are better than *anything* on Bumlovkin's resume. My point is, the Hopkins Bumlovkin comparisons are unwarranted. Hopkins has the superior resume any way you want to slice it...

 

The notion that Hopkins didn't fight the best opposition before he was 40 is, at best, laughable..

 

Trinidad @ 160 is better than any name on Bumlovkin's resume.

Joppy is better than any name on Bumlovkin's resume.

Four more years? GTFOOH. Take away Joppy and Trinidad, Hopkins still has the Johnson and John David Jackson wins - who are also better than any name on Bumlovkin's resume.

You Bumlovstans really ought to keep Hopkins' name out of your mouths. Bernard is _CLEARLY_ the superior fighter...

 

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Weep for your attention
Don't feed
It's burning obsession

 

The Shockmaster,

Great points.

I respect what you've written.

I fully expect GG to move up to SMW within the next 18 months. I think he'll win Cotto's belt either by beating Cotto/Canelo, or winning the vacant belt if it's relinquished.

The only issue with the WBO, is if Billy Joe beats Lee. Because he's openly admitted that he wouldn't fight him for a while. Whereas if Lee retains his belt, I can definitely see him fighting GG. So if everything goes to plan, he'll have all of the belts soon. But it's just a shame that Ward's moved up. I would have loved for Ward to remain at SMW just a little while longer.

I think GG would definitely have been open to Ward at SMW, after he'd accomplished everything at MW. Hopefully the fight may still happen at some point. But I'd be very surprised to see GG up at LHW.

It's very impressive. But it's a valid question to anyone.

Again, it's hard to imagine GG replicating Bernard's run at LHW, especially in his 40's. But he could still retire with some very good wins on his resume.

 

And?

 

Why do you refer to him as Bumlovkin?

It's childish.

Bernard does have the superior resume. But let's do an objective comparison when GG's got his slippers on when he's finished.

 

If those guys were big enough to fight @ LHW then so is the Triple Duck...

 

You've misunderstood my point.

We know he fought Roy at 28, in 1993.

We know he fought a huge name in Tito at 37, in 2001.

My question is:

Why did he fight in a weak MW division for 12 years, when he could have targetted much better competition at SMW/LHW?

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

In my opinion, he made huge sacrifices to fight in a weak division for an easy ride.

He deserves a lot of credit for fighting Tarver, Dawson and Kovalev etc. But he'd already become a MW legend at that point.

Would he have moved up and fought Tarver in 2006, had he beaten Taylor in 2005?

It's an interesting question.

He seemed to have a different mindset at MW. He had no interest in fighting Roy in 2002, for a 168 CW, turning down $6m and demanding $10m.

The fact that he was even fighting in his 40's at LHW, raised his stature in the sport. His legend grew whether he won or lost. He was in the limelight, and he had the 'Alien' persona. Again, I can only give him credit. But again, I don't think he had any intention of fighting the Kovalev's of the world when he was at MW in his 30's.

 

And how many fights did Ray have at LHW?

Although Qawi was short, he was a big guy.

You have to take into account a guys structure, his walking around weight, and his percentage of body fat etc.

If you want to be flippant, you could argue that Mike Tyson fought at HW.

But my question was a legitimate question to a fellow member.

GG isn't a big guy, and I don't think we'll see him at LHW.

 

Understandable but a vacant title is usually fought for by the #1&2 contenders to determine a Champ, an intriem title means its already a Champ people now a days try to pick and chose when a title means something.

Which is why I use the Guerrero example with GGG, the main difference is Hopkins was the only IBF Champ he didn't win a Jr title and claim he's a World Champion like GGG fans.
Lemieux isn't a great Titlist and didn't beat anyone of note for it but at the very least he actually won it on the ring vs a rated contender.

Everyone tries to make excuses about everybody else in order to try to elevate GGG because what he's done on face value isn't much.

Oh Hopkins did this, Cotto did that, excuses or not Cotto and Hop beat guys people considered legit.

I'd rather be the guy on top and have people making excuses why I'm there than, the bottom and people making excuses why you aren't higher. Nobodies gonna say oh so and so duck so he couldn't fight there gonna look at what you did and for GGG it isn't much.

 

I would love to see
What you people say
If traveled to 1940
Where the Cobra Was denied
A title shot at light heavy
How you would argue
The legitamacy
Of Gus Lenevichs legacy
How wrong
You would be

 

You waste your breath
On a troll
No argument can be won
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