Does James Toney...

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  1. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ya'all must have forgot

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  2. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    James Toney is not a top 100 heavyweight, but he's definitely an all-time top 50 P4P boxer.
     
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  3. Mike_b

    Mike_b Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Obviously my favorite hw is James toney, my favorite pound 4 pounder is Miguel Cotto. But that being said I guarantee Ruiz deserved the nod in the toney fight. I mean he brought it to him, didn't clinch, threw tons of shots, worked the body, got up from goofy/ off balance knock downs. He was sucking wind while jt was calmly losing the fight. That right hand counter was not that effective not was it a factor. Ruiz wanted it more he was more active and had essentially superb conditioning. It's too bad toney was on his way in to becoming in-house cause politically they were looking for a way to dispatch the man hugger Ruiz. It's a damn shame though as he showed he could outbox toney (mah fav hw)
     
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  4. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Wow, any chance of taking a pop at GGG
    You will shoe horn it in to any convo lol
     
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  5. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He doesn't really have any great wins at the weight. Basically he was able to hang in there, which is impressive since he was a past his prime, often out of shape, middle weight. On the other hand, it was one of the weakest heavyweight eras, and Toney was racking up no contests, draws, and losses to guys that were not even at the top of that weak division. Had he ever stepped in with the giants he would have gotten beaten very badly. His best opponent was Peter, and the crude Peter proved to be too Nigerian, too slick!
     
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  6. Mike_b

    Mike_b Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's still my favorite hw of all-time as how he messed up Rydell Booker!
     
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  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Peters made Toney look like Ali. .

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  8. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You got that backwards brah. Out of the two fighters, which one actually pulled off the Ali Shuffle during the fight?
     
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  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Bailamos, let the rhythm take you over Bailamos Te quiero amor mío, bailamos
     
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  10. Mike_b

    Mike_b Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That was a HECK of a fight!!!
     
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  11. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Absolutely not.
     
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  12. Seamus2

    Seamus2 Boxing's Nike Vaporfly. banned Full Member

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    Imagine putting a hi-def picture of James Toney in a bodybuilding magazine like Flex. People would throw up, he looks fat unhealthy disgusting. He is no athlete.
     
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  13. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Most average people who never made history on that level, just don't understand why this boxers stay in shape and insist on fighting until later years. Fres Oquendo definitely still has a few big fights in him, he should not be discouraged....Stay in top shape and come back to win a world championship. Manuel Charr is a great man himself, but he had a very good reason to not want to fight Fres Oquendo.

    Even today we have to make Fres Oquendo a favorite vs (Daniel Dubious or Joe Joyce), those new kids, know they have no chance vs Fres Oquendo (many losses were actual close decisions). Lots of people relieved dropping him out of ranking without having to go to war in the ring, that tells you everything you need to know about Fres Oquendo. The WBA was forced to rank him for a good reason, the president of Chechenia mugged him of his title outside the ring, nobody was able to stop him since John Ruiz 2 decades ago and John Ruiz is not a normal fighter himself
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Watch young Toney
     
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  15. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My memories of the fight is Toney outboxing and countering Ruiz to fairly easy decission. You are right thought that Ruiz wasnt hugging
     
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