Does RJJ have a chance in hell against The Mighty Adamek?

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    you have to watch the fights Rumsfeld. that's why you are always ****ing up your picks. Watch the actual fights and the right picks will generally come naturally. You go too deep in your reasoning and your logic fails you cause the further you go, the more what really matters is being lost. Trust me watch any two RJJ fights from 1996-2002 and then compare to ANY two Adamek fights from his prime and you'll see why this one is easy to pick.
     
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    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    You should be exempt from all future commentary based on previous ATROCIOUS predictions.
     
  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Dude, I have been watching boxing since the mid-80s, and have been a hard core fan since the mid-90s. I have seen plenty of Jones fights.

    I always maintained that someone like Michalczewski would have been a tough fight for Roy? Would he have won? Maybe not, but it would have been a hell of a fight.

    But I wasn't even specifically referring to just him.

    Did RJJ ever beat the best fighter in any division he was in?

    Did a pattern emerge whereby he appeared to miss match-ups against some of the stronger punchers in each division he was in?

    If you're honest, I think you will agree with me here.

    Yes, RJJ was a freak of nature--a specimen of raw athleticism the likes of which we may never see again.

    But still...he was never invincible.
     
  4. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    There is no god damn way in all hell can Roy beat Adamek. ...with no legs... he is sitting duck. Roy need to leave them drugs alone.
     
  5. andyZOR

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    Roy would win dude.. Adamek is a euro bum. Your crazy if you think Adamek would win now.

    Roy TKO 5

    A prime Roy KO1
     
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    You know it pains you to even mock say things like that. You know you have to give a blood offering and repent now.
     
  7. Toopretty

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    P.S. Adamek still got his ass beat by Dawson.
     
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    :lol:

    Man, you come out of a comic book.
     
  9. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :good no prob. nothing against adamek, but like someone brought up earlier looking at the vids gives you a who's who. sure, i remember merchant calling rjj the "reluctant warrior" when the 175lb division was weak at the time and rjj coasting from win to win, but there wasn't any comp for him at the time. the best of rjj imo was when he beat an undefeated james toney and young Bhops who were both undefeated at the time.

    not only were those 2 highly skilled fighters, but they packed a wallop. now, this was roy at 160-168, and adamek's a 200lb fighter, so we can't really compare those 2, but i'd still pick the 195-200lbs version that outboxed john ruiz. adamek is as tough as they come, but in his loss to dawson it shows the blueprint that he can be outboxed, unfortunately he's not going to get outboxed by the current version of rjj
     
  10. Farmboxer

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    Adamek by knockout.
     
  11. PH|LLA

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    Jones is not invincible but we're not exactly pitting him against the likes of Archie Moore here.

    And i'm not saying you don't watch the fights i know you have been a boxing fan for longer than i have but what im saying is watch the fights to make your picks. If you watch Jones and watch Adamek one after the other I think you'll see what i'm talking about
     
  12. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Okay, fair enough.

    I just think that prime Roy would have had trouble at Crusierweight, which explains (to me at least) why, despite all his talk, he never did fight Jirov.

    Prime RJJ may have beaten Adamek of today at 200 pounds, but I don't think it's an absolute given.

    :good
     
  13. PH|LLA

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    I do think Jirov would have been a very tough fight for Roy.
     
  14. Rumsfeld

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    Regardless, I always liked watching Jirov fight. He was fun to watch. Sadly, his move to heavyweight proved too much.
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    Jirov had some really bad management. Damn, he was such a good amateur, after turning pro, he was good for a while, but he stopped training. Going up to heavyweight was not an intelligent thing to do.