You and Amsterdam against some of the well known boxing analyst? :-( :huh Damn brother you got to earn some credibility first. :yep The fact is Taylor fights the ones who are on the top of the list irregardless if they are punchers or not. If Miranda could have won . . . it's gonna be Miranda vs Taylor now. Got to live with reality dude . . . not with your false insinuations.
I agree with you, too many people yell "glass chin" too quick just because the fighter's chin isnt Iron.
No way? Oh yes there is always a way . . . if Taylor wants to makes excuses. You just don't want to give Taylor credit. :yep
But when Pavlik does KO him, Pavlik is certainly not deserving of a top P4P ranking like some will insist, do you agree with this?
I do respect your opinion on Euro fighters. You are not going to sway mine however. Taylor didn't even attempt to fight another MW, Sturm, Abraham, etc. I don't believe he had to fight Pavlik or anyone else. Facts are things on paper you can prove, not opinions. You already know that I am not going to take your opinion as fact, so there is no point in telling me it's a fact. Taylor may not be as good as some think, but he is not anywhere near as bad as you make him out to be.
I'm just calling it like I see it. After these recent performances, if he did not take on a real MW who could hit, he would have been crucified by the media, because they were already hinting at it after the Spinks bout. It just so happens that Pavlik is also a mandatory, do the math in this equation now and if he and DiBella found a workable, alternative way instead of fighting Pavlik. He'd be destroyed by the media and boxing fans, this is truly something unavoidable.
I do rate Taylor P4P....you know that I do. We differ greatly on that. If Pavlik stops him in 2-3 rounds, like some here have said, then he would deserve as much consideration as Cotto does, considering that Cotto has never beaten anyone with a belt and is rated as high as #5 on other peoples lists.
Check my post on the 2nd page, I stated how all of this Taylor hate is just fun and games basically and how they all fall into it. I really do see that there is no way out of fighting Pavlik without being slayed by the media and fans and there were signs of that before and directly after Spinks. I illustrated how there are no other options for him, in regards to Abraham or Sturm and I am not trying to act as a 'know it all', I am more explaining the situation of Sturm and another European agreed with me in 'DanePugilist', I know Sturm very, very well mate and that's just the situation with him. And Abraham from a stylistic stand point could possibly be even worse than pressure, due to how he shells and explodes, that'll do a number on Taylor with Abraham's even more serious punching power IMO compared to Pavlik's, which is partially the volume. So that's okay if you want to believe otherwise, I am here to discuss it with an open mind, so I want you to tell me what exactly Taylor could have done to still be regarded in not taking Pavlik.... Who would he have faced that wouldn't have just gained an uproar against him?
1) If they can't see what we see, then they are blind, or biased. They will open their eyes, once they see this fight. Then they will just praise Pavlik to cover up their weak analysis. 2) Well as in no. 1, you will give us credit after the Taylor fight - at least I hope, unless you will come on here, and say: "I knew Taylor was ****", or do the no. 1 thing. 3) Then its pretty funny that he has never faced a puncher, and not only that, he has faced every smaller or featherfisted guy he could get away with fighting.
I agree with the Cotto sentiment, but Cotto is undeserving of a top 5, he's low top 10 or just outside of it and in that case, that is where Pavlik would belong, just outside or just inside IMO, just not an absurd top 5 ranking like some will produce.