Ali's left hook stopped Bonevena. That left hook did not just "clip" him. It was a devestating blow and quite obviously so. Ali peed blood after ALL his major bouts where he took severe body punishment. This does not mean Frazier had a right hand.
Why do you think I am being disingenuous? I have said that I favour Ali and Frazier over Tua. I was just making a case for Tua having a chance of causing an upset if he lands cleanly and often enough on Ali. I take your point on Frazier getting into range quicker than Tua, and Foxy's point about Ali's tremendous powers of recovery. It's just that Ali might be taking the hardest left hook he's faced, and as you acknowledged, a sharp one.
Because I think you are trying to lead me by the nose to say that Tua beats Ali when he obviously doesn't.If I am wrong, then I withdraw the remark.
Not too shabby but not quite good enough. How do you think Tua would do against fighters with similar dimensions like Frazier and Tyson.
Tyson beats him, faster of foot and hand ,and better defensively. Frazier? I make that 60/40 for Joe.Maybe even 55/45, reasons bigger guy ,more durable, two handed power.Tua had a nice right uppercut if Joe bobbed down into it, it could start the ball rolling.
But what happens at the midpoint when Tyson has thrown everything at Tua and he hasn't budged an inch?
You are either blind or stupid. Personally I go for the latter. Ali's left hook did NOT stop Bonavena. I also firmly believe you to be a liar at worst or a fantasist at best with your frankly moronic claim Ali p!ssed blood after ALL his major bouts. Even if he p!issed blood after 8 rounds of Foreman battering his body that would indicate Joe's right hand was pretty effective to Ali's body too if it produced the same result. Too anyone other than you of course.nut
Firstly, When did Tua face anyone with an ****nal like that of a prime Mike Tyson? Secondly, when did Tyson unload the kitchen sink on anyone who then turned the fight around?
He fought Lewis who more than likely hit harder than Tyson and wasn't hurt at all. Go watch the Ruddock rematch as well as the Tillis fight.