does watching Calzaghe box make anyone else laugh?

That's what happens when your biggest win is Jeff lacy and depleted Roy Jones. I'll give him nards, even though I think nard won that.

 

The Manfredo Jnr fight did, that was laughable.

The Lacy fight however was the most brutal none penetrative butt raping I've ever seen.

 

:deal This.

I've said for years that Calzaghe's unwillingness to fight the best would leave him and his 46-0 record open to ridicule, but the fact is that the guy's ego is so huge there is no way he could have handled a loss, which lead to him fighting bums when there were credible opponents calling him out.

Of course, having Fish-Eyed Frank as his promoter helped a lot..and that mongo-faced crook is still paying off the refs (look at Cleverly fight..****ing ref CARRIED Nathan back to his corner!!!).

 

Calzaghe's style was utter **** to watch, but in it's own way I suppose it was smart. He would usually throw at least one decent shot into his airball flurries, which would serve to bewlider his opponents while throwing one of his spack-fit combos. A great example is round 7 of his fight against Hopkins, which Hopkins was winning until the closing seconds, in which Calzaghe started doing busy-hands to the delight of Calzaghe's vocal fans. Replays show that nothing, literally nothing, landed and Hopkins in fact hit him with a Philly prison 1-2 (head-clash followed by right hand), badly staggering Calzaghe.

All three judges scored the round for Joe.

 

It is astonishing that I cannot indeed think of anyone who achieved all these three -

1. went life and death with a 43 year old to barely win
2. chose to beat up and showboat on a shot2**** legend as his highest achievement - most fighters do this on the way up, and dont showboat out of respect.
3. Beat a guy from a different weight division to win a world title.


but fair play with the Kessler win. That was Joes best win and a very good very valid defence, perhaps his first valid defence since he won the title some 10 years previous to that fight. The question really is why he was allowed to keep a world title for 10 years before making a good defence of it.

 

It's the things Joe didn't do that made me critical.

DIDN'T fight unification bouts with Ottke, Marcus Beyer or Eric Lucas, all of whom held major belts during Calzaghe's WBO reign.

DIDN'T leave his backyard until he was a 40-fight veteran.

DIDN'T Unify the Super-middleweight division.

It's not about naming guys who did things he did, it's about naming the guys who did the things he had a chance to do but didn't.

 

Of course its not as if Hopkins then went on to embarrass Pavlik, have a close fight with Pascal before defeating him in the rematch, give Dawson a difficult fight, and beat Cloud was it? All that matters is that he was over 40 when he fought Calzaghe and therefore the fight is meaningless and should be used to downgrade Calzaghe's win.

Seriously, this mocking of Calzaghe's close win over Hopkins because of Hopkins age has to stop. Hopkins more that proved before and after the Calzaghe fight that his age did **** all to stop him being an effective fighter on the world stage. Marking down Calzaghe's achievement on the grounds of Hopkins age is a cop out of the highest order.

 

You actually mean

2 close LOSSES to Jermaine before
1 win versus Pavlik
1 loss 1 win versus Pascal
1 controversial loss v calzaghe
2 real losses to Dawson
1 win versus Cloud

so 6 losses 3 wins, BY FAR this was Hopkins WORST run in his career, going up against Calzaghe best form ever (Lacy and Kessler). You ought to state the facts, not whats on your agenda. ANd if you do, you will find you will have lost.

Please tell the truth from now cheers mate. Just because Calzaghe lied to you don't mean you get a free pass to lie.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Truth

 

Why are people still talking about Joe like he is still relevant? I think he should be retired to the Classic section . . .

when I first say him "fight" I thought it was a joke and it is funny as hell.

 

I don't give a **** about Calzaghe but you have no business bad mouthing the Executioner.

You not surprisingly skipped:

1 win against LHW Champion Tarver
1 win against P4P#3 Winky Wright

And he never lost to Pascal. The first fight was a controversial draw.

And a no contest is not a "real loss" in regards to Dawson.

Yeah, you don't need to be lecturing anybody on the truth.

From 2006-2010 Hopkins was rated top 5 P4P by RING. The only other fighter who was ranked top 5 P4P that long during this time was Pacman. Hopkins has undeniably had one hell of a run your bull**** smear job can't even begin to cover.

Hell, he still might be one of the best figihters in the world today, outlasting all three of his narrow conquerors.

 

Bull****, if you are going to count the disputed Taylor losses and leave off Hopkin's domination over LHW King, Tarver and his edging of the P4P King, Wright. It also isn't "truth" to count a disputed draw where Hopkins got off the canvas to outland his opponent 2-1 as a loss.

 

Calzaghe snagging a close win vs an aged Hopkins really shouldn't be the issue here. Hopkins has proven the value of the win by continuing his success. It was a very good win. Unfortunately, it is one of Calzaghe's top wins, and only true tests.

 

I think Kessler and Hopkins were both great wins. Lacy was a good win too but Calzaghe's resume doesn't really stack up overall with the elite P4P guys of the 00s. He's special but I can't agree with anyone who would rank his career at the level of a Roy Jones, Hopkins, Mayweather, Morales, or Pacman. I think he's on the next level down from these guys in terms of achievement.