Doping expert Victor Conte's take on dope test.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Zavy, Dec 25, 2009.


  1. DoubleM

    DoubleM Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    What, you do know you can actually stack these two like Mosley did. Are you saying it's OK to dope with EPO? BTW, post the difference between doping with EPO and using a hypocambric chamber, I don't believe your pseudo science.
     
  2. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Where is the evidence!!?!?
    What is causing this racket now?!!?!?
    You guys are going off of Floyd Sr's ridiculous accusations that aren't backed up by anything except speculation.

    THE COMMISSION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TESTING OF FIGHTERS!!! NOT THE OTHER FIGHTERS!!!!!

    Why the **** are you guys so dead set on draining floyd mayweather's balls?
    Get off the dudes nuts for 10 ****ing minutes.
     
  3. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WOW really??? Were did Conte say that this would prove that Pac wasnt on hGH??? He simply said that EPO would be more of a benefit for a boxer then hGH. And if it was as easy as the crap that you claim then why would people spend the money and take the risk of using it??? Some of you guys are so freaking norrowminded.
     
  4. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    Mayweather and GBP is accusing Pacquiao of HGH. EPO improves your stamina.
     
  5. He isn't suggesting anyone take a blood or urine test.

    He's simply explaining the ins and outs of blood doping, EPO etc.

    Doesn't stop the author trying to twist it otherwise.

    In fact he says that it is "relatively easy to beat USADA testing"

    Nowhere in that article does Conte say Pacquiao should take a blood test.
     
  6. DoubleM

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    So we should always have laid back testing?
     
  7. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    Show me scientific studies that prove HGH as effective athletic enhancer.
     
  8. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    NO!!!!!!
    But where the **** was the testing talk before Floyd Sr started making random accusations?!!?
    You were all fine with all the other fights you were watching before.
    Not one of you was in here trying to get drug testing policies changed.

    You're ****ing cattle, no thoughts of your own.
     
  9. DoubleM

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    uh....wow..you have the reading comprehension skills of a 10 year old.
     
  10. Great insight by Conte - but it's a ****ing terrible article. Conte doesn't mention his opinion anywhere, but the author states he does. Neutral Conte - biased author.

    This article won't shut up the pac fans or the floyd fans.

    It'll just spawn 100 new ESB threads.
     
  11. DoubleM

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    Zab Judah brought this to light in a potential fight with Molsey years ago.
     
  12. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    From Mayo Clinic:

    "Studies of healthy adults taking human growth hormone are limited. Although it appears that human growth hormone injections can increase muscle mass and reduce the amount of body fat in healthy older adults, the increase in muscle doesn't translate into increased strength. In fact, researchers have found that strength training is a cheaper, more effective way to increase muscle mass and strength."

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/growth-hormone/HA00030

    If your a fighter you can accomplish muscle mass by taking creatine, eating lean meat, or protien shakes takes longer time but will achieve the same results.

    EPO naturally occurs in your body, train at high altitudes you can accomplish the same thing, not to the extent of synthetic EPO but close to the level.
     
  13. DoubleM

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    'In my opinion, blood testing for the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is more important for detecting possible blood doping or use of EPO than it is for human growth hormone."

    What in the hell are you talking about? Can you read?
     
  14. Go ahead and prove me wrong. Point out where he's quoted as saying he thinks Manny has to have a blood test. I read the author saying it; I don't see Conte saying it. Go ahead and give me a quote...
     
  15. DoubleM

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    'In my opinion, blood testing for the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is more important for detecting possible blood doping or use of EPO than it is for human growth hormone."