"Duran-Moore" 1983 / Duran's true power there?

This may sound morbid, but I was in the garden that night and it was the best night of boxing I ever experienced. Even though Resto did what he did, his fight with Collins was very exciting. Add to that the great Escalera-Hatcher slugfest and then the BEEEEEauiful performance of Duran in massacring Moore and with the festive birthday atmosphere and EVERYBODY in the Garden except Moore's family pulling for Duran, you had a Duran fan and boxing fans dream night. Duran could punch at 154 when in shape (he proved at 160 he could too against Barkley when he was old and against Hagler later that year) and would beat most at his best. BTW, he would have a tore a whole in the fatass side of the basically defenseless Ayala, while laughing at the rapists' punches. He would have tore the heart out of the San Antonio bum and made him quit quicker than Campas did 20 years later. Ayala fought no punchers after Maldanado put him on serious ***** street and knocked him down in the first of their fight in 1981. Duran would have finished him right there. Ayala also never fought a body puncher until Campas and would have been Duran's victim if they had fought when Duran was in shape.:hat

 

and also, when you watch Duran-Hearns, watch where the first punch that knocks him down lands in the first. It is a righthand thrown downward of course from Hearn's height, right into the side of Duran's head. It was like he was hit w. a sap and he never recovered. If you have ever been tagged in the head by anything or ran into anything w/ your head, you would know how it feels. Could you imagine then having to try to fight Hearns. Hearns heighth in that fight and the sorry shape of Duran were imprtant in the outcome.:hat

 

age and the lack of hunger after the great 1983 didn't help either.

 

give me a second and i'll come w/ somemoe stuff. heeee, heeeee. the voices are starting again

 

he had neither the heart nor chin to last as long as Moore. Strictly a typical Duva frontrunner like Ramos, Czyz, Bumphis etc.:hat:fire

 

Duran and Moore were both lucky Tony went to jail. Both were made to order for Tony, esp. at 154. Duran was too slow and pudgy.

 

Spoken like a true Duran fan/Ayala detractor.
If Duran mixed it up with Tony, he would've found himself on the same planet as Robbie Epps. Hearns and Julian Jackson aside, nobody hit as hard as Tony Ayala Jr. It's lost on most that Duran is a chubby LW. How in the hell is he going to outmuscle, much less KO, a way stronger man?

 

Tony would've come in much harder and faster than the old slow Duran could cope with. Yes, he might give good defense early on until Tony's unrelenting punching attack takes its toll and simply wears Duran down. I simply cannot logically see how Duran would win against such an opponent. Tony is too strong for him.

Pat Lawlor?

 

I don't think Duran would be able to comfortably box because Tony would've suffocated him with his unending pressure. Duran would be forced to trade with Tyson-like firepower, getting backed against the ropes, which is where the once-LW king would meet his brutal end. In a nutshell, Tony does to Duran what Roberto did to Ray in Montreal.

 

1. Duran thrived on fighters that went at him.

2. Tony does not have Tyson like firepower.

3. From your previous post - Duran was not slow and old vs Moore. He was sharp as a tack, a performance for the ages of experience and quality vs Youth and unpolished enthusiasm. Moore had actually beaten a much much better quality of opposition than Tony and was FAR more proven.

4. Tony had his promise for sure, but the annals of history will show him as just that - promising. He proved nothing.

Mate, i can soooo see Duran pouncing on Tony's mistakes and openings and slowly dissecting him. Or quickly if Tony chose that route. Duran's countering and guile would be a treat in this one. Duran's no freaking Robbie Epps or whatever his name was.

Look mate, maybe Tony would have evolved into something important but meeting Duran at the time Moore did would have been very detrimental for him and his progress.

 

Duran could have traded with Ayala all day and won. Ayala would taste Duran's body shots and head shots and quit. Hagler couldn't hurt Duran or Barkley hurt him. What is there to fear from ayala, who had no heart and the one time he fought a somewhat puncher in Mario he hit the deck. Seriously hurt, he never fought either a puncher or fast guy in his career. Duran slaughterts this bum and either stops him in 5 or more likely, Ayala quits on his stoll like in the Campas fight.Don't EVER compare Ayala the gutless ****** to the great Duran.:hat

 

You never heard Ayala ask to right the other champ, Benitez during this time. Like all Duva fighters of that period, Czyz, Paz, ramos, he talked tough then fought cupcakes. Purely a frony runner who wouldn't get off the porch when the big dogs were around. He only wanted to fight Duran, because he thought Duran was finished. Oh, how wrong he was.:hat