duran v leonard greatness comparison.

I had Barkley closer than SRL.. and I honestly can't see it any other way. You had SRL only losing by one round?

 

He was great. Probably top 5.

I'm not an expert on the division historically but guys like Robinson, Armstrong, Gavilan, Napoles, Britton, Burley, Griffith make for stiff competition.

Even so I think SRL's welter work is often 'embellished'. I'm not convinced Hearns was virtually invincible at the weight as some claim, I believe Benitez is a little overrated at 147, and SRL needed two attempts to get past Duran.
I stress that this IS a VERY impressive resume, but at the same time I feel he's trading off a few very strong results that get magnified a bit too much. It would have been interesting to see how he would have staved off challlenges at welterweight from the emerging crop of the 1980s (Curry, Starling, McCrory etc.). But the eye injury etc.

 

This is a terrible analogy. Comparing Duran`s victory over Leonard to Purrity, Douglas and Sanders? Your right Im not getting it.

Im gonna tell you this one time. Stay off the drugs son.

 

I know. Its clear that the only guy in here not being crazy is the good Doctor. Everyone else: Duran was no better than Carlos Baldomir. Accept it.

 

Ray was a great WW & a great Boxer.

Ray joy boy fans are secretly waiting for a moment that they can crown Ray as the better than Duran & SRR and not be made fun of and so they make a quirp here and a remarke there , **** like Ray was green in the first bout with Duren, he fought Durans fight and bull**** like he was more complete than SRR, the best / second best WW ever etc..... and understandingly people point out that Ray does not have very many defences , had to wait until Hagler was gone to fight him & had to fight an out of shape Duran to beat him the mutiple retirements etc....and they get called Ray haters.

 

then you get MAG, who doesn't even know he's trolling himself.

 

Yes, more dominance also.
Yes, because one was approaching his prime, and another slightly out of it.
Surpasses Leonards's
A little bit less, slight margin of error.
Really Surpasses Leonard's weight hopping, he did more with less.
Still think Leonard's the greater boxer, not by much.
I'm a SRL man, but after the 77-82 version, he was somewhat chump change.As afterfore mentioned, Duran did more with Less, and against some real tough comp.

 

I agree, i think Duran has it because of what he did through the weight classes and what he did at a later age

 

I am not sure.. I think he didn't lose because he retired two years later and handpicked the rest of the way. He was knocked down by Lalonde and beaten up by Hearns and then beating Duran again. Had Leonard not retired in 1982 I think he would have had a loss the next two years. He was getting tired. Fact is Hagler and Hearns and Duran never had the wins Leonard did, but they were tougher mentally than Leonard was to have longer careers.

 

I don't know what trolling is.I have an idea, but that doesn't seem like what I am doing. I believe what I believe very strongly about Duran and that era. My opinion never changes because I believe Duran was a little overrated in his career and Leonard underrated. Trolling? If that means discussing a topic which I will not change my mind on- I suppose I am trolling. I really don't know what that means.

 

It confuses me how much credit and hype Duran still gets.
Why is this? His quit job against Leonard was worst than Vitali and his quit job against Byrd.
It's people who forget Duran quit that tend to over rate Duran.
10 years from now Klitschko fans will pretend Ross Purrity never happened.

 

I respect you.

but let's be real.Palomino was coming off a loss to Benitez.. Duran basically took advantage of a still shell shocked Palomino and still barely manage to win.


Eleta? I'm looking at boxrec right now .. and for the life of me I can't find the name Eleta under Duran's resume?

 

I am not necesarilly disagreeing, but if it is CLEAR behind Benny how does it stack up in comparrison to Joe Gans???