Duran vs Pac: How long would it have lasted?

Yep, hard fight for pac but he will KO him in 5th.

 

Duran BY UD, pac gets schooled, win 1 round, i'm sorry pac fans, current fighters seem indestructible to many, i hear how May would stop Duran, and how pac would KO Ray Leonard at 160 come on now, in about 30 years you will hear people talk about current fighters being able to stop Pac and May easily

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl this ****** ass nig.ga :!: mutha****a cant think right with Pac's dick up his rectum

 

pac stops duran

 

Leonard KOs Pac by Jab alone:deal

 

Hearns cripples both Duran and Pac at any weight. Sorry, was I not supposed to mention Hearns? LOL

 

This fight goes the distance at any weight.

 

What so you think Pacquiao's punching power and defense is greater than Duran's ever was?

There's a reason why Duran is rated highly by pretty much everyone. Duran-Palomino is on youtube. Watch it. Palomino was not far removed from being the welterweight champion of the world. Duran destroyed him, only Palomino's enormous heart kept him up.

I'd tell you to watch the usual fights, his wins vs Leonard, Moore, Barkley, Buchanan, DeJesus 2 & 3, but you'd probably say they were his only good wins or they were the only fights he trained for or some other utter nonsense.

 

Duran is just too well rounded a fighter for Pacquaio, period.

Take a look at Pacquaio's opponents of late...

Margarito - damaged goods, and woefully overrated courtesy of loaded gloves

Clottey - who? Would he make the all time top 1000 p4p? Not a cat in hells chance...

Cotto - decent fighter in his day, but damaged goods...

Hatton - again, damaged goods... a broken man, and corrupted stylistically by Floyd senior...

Oscar - was a walikng zombie

David Diaz - doesn't warrant a mention really...

Marquez - pushed Manny hard... will refer back to this point later

Barrera - great fighter, technically sound but unwilling to engage, clearly past his best...

Solis - same comment as Clottey

Morales - great fighter, shot to utter ****...

Larios - B level fighter

Morales - morales on the slide... still pushed Manny hard before he gassed...

Velasquez - who??

Morales - copped a fair old beating at the hands of el terrible...

Thawatchai - this is getting beyond a joke...

Marquez - draw... arguably lost...

Barrera - beat barrera fair and square... got barrera's number...

Lucero - same comment as 3k...

Yeshmagambetov - who??

Rakkiatgym - ^^^

Julio - B level fighter at best...

Sanchez - put a beating on the pacman while it lasted... dirty tactics...

Now, before I go any further, and just to be clear, I am a pac fan... think he's a brilliant fighter, but...

You can't argue with facts. Looking at the above record, you can see that pacmans last 5 fights, which he has recieved immense praise for, have been fought against damaged fighters, at catchweights, against cheats who no longer have loaded gloves (and still hurt pacman), or against Clottey, who is just stupidly overrated...

Then you take the fighters who are not world class - diaz, solis, larios, velasquez, 3k, lucero, yeshmagambetov, rakkiatgym and julio.

That leaves us with marquez, morales, barrera and sanchez. Pac struggled immensely with Marquez. A just past prime morales put a beating on pacman... morales was shot in the subsequent fights. Pacman had barrera's number, no one can argue that. Then you've got Augie Sanchez... not the best fighter, but his dirty tactics gave pacman utter hell.

So, from that, we can see that Pacman struggles with great fighters, with good timing, good chins and a willingness to go to war - anyone that says pacquaio went to war with cotto, margarito etc don't know what a war is... From the sanchez fight, we can also deduce that he doesn't like being roughed up.

Take the above into account, and put him in the ring with a prime duran... only one outcome... pacman gets murdered in a bloodbath. Duran has too many skills, both offensively and defensively, has too good a chin, brings too much ferocity, too much intensity, and makes augie sanchez look like a nun.

It amazes me that Pacquaio's legacy seems to have been sealed by his last 5 results, beating 'bigger' men, who were clearly well past their best, then he picks a fight with a 40 year old Mosely. Sorry guys, yes, pacman is a brilliant fighter, but put him in their with a top 5 all time p4p, and he is a lamb to the slaughter...

 

No, Glen Johnson is the nearest thing we have to a throwback fighter, closely followed by Hopkins,...

I don't think he gets anywhere near landing that punch on Duran... and if he did, I do think Duran snarls at him and fires right back, but he wouldn't decapitate Manny...

 

Of course people shouldn't compare fighters of different era's solely on resume. Each era has a different culture.

Today, health and safety combined with a relatively declined interest in the sport dictates that top level modern fighters dont fight more than 3 times a year max.

However, was Pacquiao born in the 20's, of course he would have fought more, thus have more quality opponents on his resume.

When judging by his own era, Pacquiao has a fantastic resume. You can nit-pick all you want, but the fact is, he beat good opposition at Flyweight, Featherweight, Super-Featherweight and Welterweight. That is impressive.

As for Pacquiao-Duran, I question the effect Pacquiao's power would have on a great chin such as Duran's because of form.

Asides, from Hatton and maybe Ledwaba, Pacquiao has not shown one punch power against his toughest opponents. He wears his opponents down. That for me shows the Hatton knockout punch was an anomaly, a very good one, but one nonetheless.

Duran had great head movement. He was a natural with it. So for Pacquiao to find his chin with a huge punch in the first place would be difficult.

Duran also had a superb chin. So if somehow Pacquiao did find that chin of Duran's, do I think he could knock him out? No. The only man to do that to Duran was Tommy Hearns, one of the biggest punchers of all time, and Duran was past his best at that time anyway!

Pacquiao is one of the best fighters of all time. No doubt. However, Duran was one of the very best, and it would show had they ever fought.

 

The amount of bias toward Duran is absolute bollocks. Great fighter but to say Pac gets destroyed by him is insane. Duran didnt always fight future HOF and ATG. He lost a few in his 'prime'. he wasnt this ****in terminator type person. And what everyone seems to forget is that he is a quitter, how he gets a pass for that is beyond me, if a fighter today does that you lot are calling for his head.

 

The Leonard rematch was a blowout. He let a lot of people down that night.

I personally think he made up for it over time. He fought on and won titles at two more weight divisions.

However, I wasn't even around at the time of the fight never mind a fan of his affected by it, so I can't really comment too much on how much it hurt his fans then and there.

No, Duran didn't always fight HOF and ATG, but rarely does anyone do that on a constant basis. He did beat the Lightweight champion, Buchanan, then won a trilogy over the next best lightweight of the era bar himself, and his only lightweight conqueror, DeJesus. Then stepped up 2 weights to totally outdo the former champion, Palomino, and the current, undefeated champion, Leonard. That alone is an outstanding resume. But then to come back after 3 years in wilderness to destroy Davey Moore, and then another 6 years of wilderness to beat Barkley, both when well past his best, and at an unnaturally high weight class, is crazy.

For Pacquiao to equal that he would have to have beaten Marquez convincingly, in his prime, 2 out of 3 times, then stepped up and beaten Mayweather.

As for Pacquiao getting destroyed by him, its a logical argument. Pacquiao's clear weakness is the body, Duran liked to test the ribcage hard and often. Pacquiao also has average head movement, and Duran's speed is under-rated for me, he'd land his right hand over and over.

As for Duran losing a few, the only people to beat him in his peak were DeJesus and Leonard. The common factor there, they were both at some point or another beaten well by Duran. Generally, when at his best, Duran was an animal, no question.