Why are you trying to make this big case about whether Duran beats Azumah Nelson? Who gives a ****? The question is whether he beats Whitaker, and the answer is no.
duran was too strong,too savage, he did hit so hard. withaker would go to the distance but he would run to survive. i would pick duran to beat anyone at lw, except maybe armstrong
The brawler, puncher version at 135lbs beats Sweet Pea on a decision in a 15 rounder. Sweet Pea probably beats him over 147lbs. Roberto after the Leonard loss didn't have the same style he had at 135 and fought more of a technical fight, but still retained a lethal right hand. I think it's something of a stalemate, I wouldn't argue with anyone picking either.
whitiker Duran gave up when sugar ray leonard was boxing and not fighting...... Whitker would give him nightmares
Mmmmm.... the best of both at LW aka the Duran of the 3rd Dejesus fight vs the Whitaker of the 2nd Ramirez fight ? :think Duran by close decision, the power in both hands would give Duran the edge & make Pernell a little too defensive which Duran would use to his advantage by outworking Whitaker on the ropes... Duran would be outboxed & frustrated in phases of the fight, perhaps for an entire round here & there but I see him landing the more telling punches in the majority of the rds as he can take chances offensively due to being comfortable taking Pernell`s power. Duran by MD
Have to agree here.... Chavez was superior to those guys, saying otherwise is badly underrating him. He`d likely be the best p4p fighter today if he was in his prime.
Personally, I think Haugen was a superior all-round performance to Ramirez II, but our thoughts on this fight are pretty similar. I don't think we can say Chavez was on a different level to Buchanan as a lightweight. Chavez was only a lightweight for a year, and his only significant wins there were Rosario and Ramirez. Buchanan spent the vast majority of his career there, held the world title for longer, and beat Carlos Ortiz as well as gaining two wins over Ismael Laguna. Of the two, Buchanan proved his worth at lightweight more. You may believe Chavez was better h2h, but to say they were on different levels at 135 is a bit of a stretch. If Buchanan hadn't ran into elite ATG Roberto Duran, his reign could easily have been far longer. Luckily for Chavez, there was no Duran around in his year at 135. However, I do agree with you that if Chavez was prime today, he'd be the p4p#1.
"Gooners" obviously gave a **** since he was the one playing the big "I am" with other posters over the issue no more than one page back. And FYI, I do not take you seriously enough to even respond to any point made by you after reading this embarrassing piece of ****: How the **** do you become so, so horribly ******ed that you think Pacman and Chavez would "make Duran quit"? Middleweight Marvin Hagler couldn't make natural lightweight Roberto Duran quit in a middleweight fight, not in 15 rounds. Imbecile. atsch
Because Leonard made him quit, imbecile. We don't have to wonder if Duran would quit, he DID quit. Do you understand that fact? He QUIT, walked away, surrendered, gave up, abandoned the field. You can try to suck his balls all you want, it doesn't change that fact. He couldn't even wait til the end of the round and quit on his stool with some dignity, he surrendered in the middle of the round. Leonard broke him, humiliated him, rode him hard and put him away wet and so would Pac and so would JCC. He quit once, and he'd do it again. Hagler got beat by a welterweight as well, he's only known for his fights with smaller men. Hagler and Duran combine to make one great sucking whirlpool of overratedness. Throw Pryor into the mix and their overratedness is greater than the collected overratedness of all the other overrated boxers in the history of the sport combined. Benitez was better than Duran, h2h and p4p. That's why he beat him with such ease. Hearns was much better than Duran, that's why he knocked him the **** out without breaking a sweat. Leonard was better than Duran, that's why he totally, completely and comprehensively outclassed him in two out of three fights. Duran LOST in his prime to DeJesus. He LOST to Kirkland Laing. Davey Moore was ****. In other words, he is overrated. Imbecile.
I really do not know how you can even post **** like this and not be ashamed of yourself. Roberto Duran quit ONE fight in his career that lasted around THIRTY years, and that fight was to a bigger, younger, faster man who used his ATG skills to their maximum capacity. Can Julio Cesar Chavez or Manny Pacquiao replicate the only performance that ever made Duran quit??? Can Chavez and Pacquiao dance, outbox, and taunt like SRL could??? Nope. Chavez and Pacquiao, like all the other great fighters who couldn't make Duran quit, did not have these abilities. You are the biggest moron currently trolling these boards. ****ing idiot. atsch
Duran wins but looks bloody awful doing it. Whitaker in his prime was one of those guys (like Wright and Hopkins) who was impossible to look good against whether you beat him or not. Duran's superior aggression and punch output takes a narrow decision, 12 or 15 rounds.
Nope, all they can do is show him that he won't win the fight and might look bad losing it, and he would quit in the middle of the round and go home. You ****ing idiot. ****ing moron. Troll.
Shitbag...........Yer breaks over.. Now **** off back behind the counter & flip a few more burgers:yep
Truth hurts, don't it shitbag? How did it feel seeing Tommy waving to the crowd with one hand and brutally KO'ing Duran with the other?