Dynamite!! 2011 (Fedor and Aoki on the same card!!)

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Beekeeper, Nov 23, 2011.


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  1. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    Lesnar beat several top heavyweights. You're talking nonsense. You're supposed to be a JMMA fan so that means you should know your Pride history. Hell the torch for toughest wrestler was literally passed from Herring to Lesnar. Herring beat all the toughest wrestlers int eh game in Pride. Herring took that title by stopping both Mark Kerr and Tom Erikson who were devastating wrestlers in the early days of mixed martial arts. Lesnar literally mauled him to become the latest and greatest version of that.

    Lesnar's victories over Couture arguably the third greatest heavyweight of all time and Mir arguably becoming one of the top two or three greatest heavyweight submission specialists of all time and his comeback victory against Shane Carwin a rightful contender at the time mean the Brock's resume has more than enough top heavyweights on it. To say otherwise is pure denial.
     
    sugarngold, Dec 18, 2011
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  2. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    If you mean top 10 HWs, then sure, no argument. Carwin, Herring(not so much when they fought), Mir and Couture were all top 10 heavys.

    In terms of beating a guy who could have realistically been considered the best at the time I don't think so. Couture as a top 3 HW is ridiculous. How many legit HWs has he beaten? If you can count them with one hand then I don't know how you can hold to your statement.
     
    Beekeeper, Dec 18, 2011
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  3. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    How familiar are you with the UFC heavyweight division pre-2007?
     
    sugarngold, Dec 18, 2011
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  4. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Would have been a fun fight to watch despise what anyone says
     
    greathamza, Dec 18, 2011
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  5. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    You meed those days when a LHW could be champ?
     
    Beekeeper, Dec 18, 2011
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  6. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    I think most people have the same sentiments, would have been a decent card filler
     
    Beekeeper, Dec 18, 2011
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  7. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    Sakuraba on the card. Tag match - Pro-wrestling!!!

    IGF rules match: Kazushi Sakuraba & Katsuyori Shibata vs. Atsushi Sawada & Wakakirin
     
    liger05, Dec 19, 2011
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  8. Jim Bowen

    Jim Bowen MARVELOUS Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRBO6hq0rb8[/ame]


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rovomgpf74g[/ame]
     
    Jim Bowen, Dec 19, 2011
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  9. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    Nice find, the Condit fight was superb
     
    Beekeeper, Dec 19, 2011
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  10. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    Josh Barnett is on the card:

     
    liger05, Dec 20, 2011
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  11. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    Beekeeper, Dec 20, 2011
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  12. One Punch KO

    One Punch KO Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's a pity Barnett couldn't replace Rogers against Sylvia.

    :deal
     
    One Punch KO, Dec 20, 2011
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  13. Shogun Assassin

    Shogun Assassin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Any kickboxing been announced yet?.
     
    Shogun Assassin, Dec 20, 2011
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  14. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Couture was probably considered the 2nd best heavyweight in the world, behind Fedor, at the time he faced Lesnar. Even if you had Nogueira and Barnett ranked higher, Randy was still in the running.

    As far as all time ratings are concerned, I personally think 3rd is too high for Couture. I do, however, have him at 5. That may change in the near future, but Couture has the resume to back up that spot currently.
     
    rekcutnevets, Dec 20, 2011
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  15. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    He does, but he does not matchup up well H2H against a lot more people than in the all-time ranking for me. His longetivity is still unsurpassed none-the-less.
     
    Beekeeper, Dec 20, 2011
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