Eddie needs to keep Barry away from interviews

Well Fury has said multiple times..

"I don't fight for money, money means nothing to me"

"it's all about legacy and fighting the best, I'm a real fighting man"



Fury Fanboys.. "what a legend, a real throwback, Fury doesn't fight for money, he is a real fighting man, he just want to fight the best and prove he is the best"


Fury Fanboys "Notice how Hearn is going after Wilder now and not Fury, they don't want any of Fury"


*THEN IT ALL CHANGES*

Hearn "Here is a far better purse and far more money than you got for Wilder.."

*COUGH*

Fury Fanboys "The offer is idiotic",

"Flat fees? I don't care how much that flat fee actually is, it's all about fair splits",

"Lowball offer",

"Fury is lineal champion and that means worth at least 50% and not a percent less"




You bunch of hypocritical, agenda driven, bias morons

 

Of course Joshua Vs Fury or Wilder will be a far bigger fight than anybody else Joshua could fight, goes without saying, I don't think anybody could seriously suggest otherwise.

What I believe the problem is the level of a pay rise and what is fair and reasonable (I'll use Wilder for this example and the numbers are easy for calculations not accurate before anybody starts on that).



So let's say for example Wilders biggest purse is £15 million, so Hearn offers Wilder £22.5 million for AJ.

Wilder has an increase on his biggest purse of 50%.


Let's say AJ has a biggest purse of £30 million and for Wilder Hearn offers AJ £37.5 million for Wilder

AJ has an increase on his biggest purse of 25%.


So in reality they both get an increase of £7.5 million on their biggest purses, so in a way that's 50/50, that doesn't reflect who is A-Side and who is the draw, considering who is doing the work (Hearn, Matchroom, AJ), it doesn't reflect who holds 3 of the 4 major belts and is considered the number 1 heavyweight on the planet.



Now what I will say when you are talking millions and those sums of money then it can be looked at as greed, FROM BOTH SIDES.

But.. if you are the draw, you are the one with 3 of the 4 major belts, your promoter is making offers, getting sponsorship, selling the fight and will be putting on the event would you be OK with that?

Would your promoter would be OK with that? Would your manager be OK with that?

That's the problem as far as I can see it, they need to give them BOTH a percentage increase on their biggest purses that is similar, they should both getting a percentage increase that is the same on their biggest purses or average purses.

 

The best comparisons are when you compare the individual fighters against the same opponents.

Joshua and Fury both fought Klitschko on the same channel, for the same price, at the same time, for the same belts, on the same night of the week, with the same Sky coverage and build up. Joshua did three times the numbers Fury did.

All the Fury fanboy element have to go on is his new apparent popularity in the wake of the Wilder fight. Joshua, despite being a boring, cliche spouting, groomed for the cameras dullard has still done more business in a Carlos Takam fight than Fury has ever done in any fight. Its testimony that what happens in the ring is important. People want big shots, knockdowns and stoppages, not six punches a round and waving your arms in the air.

 

They probably have, but they've probably come at them with the most ridiculous offer you've seen

 

THANK YOU!. I've been trying to tell people this for months but they just don't unerstand it. they revert back to "but Wilder and/or Fury don't make the money AJ does"...yes, they're correct, but the only reason those two fights (AJ v Wilder/Fury) are so big is because of the man stood in the opposite corner to AJ.

 

Nobody, at all, is saying the fights that make the most money for Joshua are Fury and Wilder. But...

Joshua also makes more money than either of those two have ever made against second level opponents. Joshua is still doing massive numbers and attendances against Takam, Povetkin and Parker. He'd do the same if he ended up fight Whyte, Miller or Usyk. Where do Wilder and Fury go? Fury back to the MEN fighting Charr? Wilder back to earning a couple of million against Breazeale? The drop in earnings for them is a lot more significant than it is for Joshua, and that's why he would clearly demand a bigger percentage.

 

I didn't say any of that wasn't true? my point was those massive numbers will become astronomical for a fight against Wilder, and even more so against Fury. I'm in no way saying Fury or Wilder deserve 50-50, but an absolute minimum of 35% imo.

 

So why the big 'THANK YOU' to a guy suggesting a 50/50 split?

I agree - around 35% is reasonable, but it'll end up being based on percentages. It would be insane to think of a deal like this in pure terms if the bottom line shows Joshua's earnings for the fight have gone up 20-25% on top of what he earned for the Klitschko fight whilst Wilder/Fury jump to more than twice the amount they've ever been paid when it's so abundantly clear that they are not the draw.

 

he didn't, he just said if it was 50/50, it'd still be worth a lot more. But it was more the premise of the message

And? Who cares how much each person's money has jumped up, it's irrelevant. All that matters is what each person brings to a fight.

 

The point he misses is that it works in reverse. It's not just Joshua who gets his biggest fight and payday against Fury/Wilder. They do too. You can't say Joshua should be accepting or going near 50/50 against them on the basis that it's more in net terms than he'd get against anyone else. Wilder taking 20% against Joshua hammers his biggest payday and would completely dwarf what he'd get elsewhere. Using the same logic he should accept.

 

Different belts. Vacant WBA and stripped IBF. No Lineal. No WBO.

 

Fair point. That can be amended to 'slightly less on the table for the Joshua fight.'

Matters very little of course. Still well and truly blasted Fury out of the water.

 

i didn't. This is the 3rd time you've invented something that hasn't even been said with me and it's getting a bit boring now.

 

Sorry about that then. Take it we're in agreement that Joshua should be getting the majority of any split then.

 

Good post mate.

My point is, there’s gotta be recognition from AJ’s side that Fury and Wilder boost the commercial profile of their product, massively. He can still make a decent wedge against anyone but the facts are, Wilder and Fury are going to create a big (bigger) selling fight again over in America without him. They can & will generate a huge amount of Vegas money and they didn’t need AJ to do it.