ok..i'll have a go at the light heavyweights... possibly leave the champ slot vacant until dawson - johnson II 1. Chad Dawson 2. Bernard Hopkins 3. Glen Johnson 4. Jean Pascal 5. Zsolt Erdie 6. Gabriel Campillo 7. Hugo Garay 8. Jurgen Brahmer 9. Adrian Diaconu 10. Beibut Shumenov 11. Tavoris Cloud 12. Sylvio Branco 13. Antonio Tarver 14. Roy Jones Junior 15. Yusaf Mack
fair play but as soon as he beats Marquez he at least goes top 3. just top point out, The last time Mayweather outweighed someone on the night of the fight was November 2001.....
two very wide points decisions. maybe he could make number 10 at best, moving shumenov etc 1 place down each
:goodIf and when he wins, PBF will move up. If someone else agrees, I am happy to move them around. Apart from that, are we happy with the list?
my P4P Top 15 UK fighters 1. Carl Froch 2. David Haye 3. Ricky Hatton 4. Junior Witter 5. Amir Khan 6. Jamie Moore 7. Clinton Woods 8. Nicky Cook 9. Rendall Munroe 10. Kell Brook 11. Alex Arthur 12. Ola Alafoabi 13. Anthony Small 14. Ryan Rhodes 15. Nathan Cleverly i think everyone should do a list and then we do a points for P4P. Same with the worlds.
Woods in at 6 and Tarver in at 5, IMO, with the others dropping down- they've both lost recently (Tarver to the top guy in the division) but should still be around the top of the rankings as they'd beat others below them, IMO. Diaconu above Brahmer as well. I reckon the champ should be vacant as well:good.
Sakio Bika lost a lopsided decision to Lucian Bute. Andrade had a closish fight and almost knocked him out, so Andrade should at least be ahead of Bika. btw unless someone gets schooled or ktfo in the first few rounds of the tournement, they shouldnt drop out.
Right, Rob, if you make your adjustment on the above list and there's agreement, we'll change it:good. You happy with leaving the champ vacant as well?
i have a different method of ranking - i just go off recent achievements rather than taking into account who i think would beat who h2h. woods possibly could make the top 15, but not as high as 6 imo
Yes but if we were to do that across the board then the likes of Hatton and JT wouldn't be ranked. A recent loss against a good fighter isn't the be all and end all. It's a difficult one, though, as I see where you are coming from as well. I love this thread- we've got some good debate kicking around here.:good
Heavyweights 1. Wladimir Klitschko 2. Vitali Klitschko 3. Ruslan Chageav 4. Alexander Povetkin 5. Eddie Chambers 6. David Haye 7. Nicolay Valuev 8. Chris Arrola 9. Samuel Peter 10. Alexander Dimitrenko Light Heavyweight 1. Chad Dawson 2. Bernard Hopkins 3. Glengoffe Johnson 4. Zsolt Erdrie 5. Antonio Tarver 6. Hugo Garay 7. Jean Pascall 8. Tarvoris Cloud 9. Adrien Diaconu 10. Roy Jones Jr Middleweight 1. Arthur Abraham 2. Kelly Pavlik 3. Felix Sturm 4. Tony Mundine 5. Daniel Gaele 6. Sebastian Slyvester 7. Giovanni Lorenzo 8. David Lopez 9. Roman Karmazin 10. Oral Welterweight 1. Shane Mosley 2. Paul Williams 3. Antonio Margarito 4. Miguel Cotto 5. Joshua Clottey 6. Andre Berto 7. Luis Collazo 8. Carlos Quintana 9. Isaac Hlathswegu 10. Delvin Rodriguez Lightweight 1. Juan manuel Marquez 2. Juan Diaz 3. Joel Casamoyer 4. Edwin Valero 5. Joan Guzman 6. Amir Khan 7. Michael Katsidas 8. Ali Funeka 9. Yuri Romanov 10. Antonio DeMarco cant be arsed doing any more