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  1. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Changes made to light-welter.

    Khan is not going any higher! :lol:
     
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    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree Khan should be below Holt and the rest but to give him a crappy ranking because he's had 2 fights (yes two, look it up if no-one believes me) at 140 is unfair, IMO. Why is Pacman champ after 1 fight at 140? That needs answering if we're going by the 'too few fights' theory.
     
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    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lets forget the 'too few fights' thing (the other fight at light-welter was a bum anyway) - do you really think Khan deserves to be higher based on his resume?

    Kotelnik (good win), Barrera (past it), Prescott (heavy loss to unknown fighter), St Clair (decent name, blown up fighter though for Khan), Limond, Gomez (past it) and Earl (good domestic names).

    He cannot be any higher really, even if you don't look at the lack of fights.
     
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    My point about adameck is that he would be striped for facing someone so swag in bobby gunn. If your champion and fight someone terrible thats not a mando you should get stripped. Its FAN rankings remember.

    Khan should be top 5 minimum.
     
  5. kosaros

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    Plus, I am sure the fighters are not just rated on their fights at the weight (I am not doing that), hence why Pacquiao is top.
     
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    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree it was a bum who I don't even remember the name of. A Frenchman for the IBF inter-continental belt if I remember correctly.

    His resume is crap- let's get that straight. That said, Kotelnik was never a mug and I find it amazing how he's being dismissed as the worst of the lot after Khan has beaten him. I'm just trying to make this as fair as possible, Kos, I'm not attacking anyone:good.
     
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    Remember pacquiao only had 1 fight at light welter and is champ

    khan beat kotelnik by a landslide, whi beat maidana who is 5th. Khan 100% ahead of maidana
     
  8. kosaros

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    I always rated Kotelnik highly, and I said if Khan did beat him I would not demean the victory - it was a very good win against a world class operator.
     
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    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You reckon Adamek should be champ, Rob? He's definately number 1 but I dunno if he should be champ.

    As for Khan, it's nice someone agrees. I can see where Pater and Kos are coming from but he should be higher, IMO.
     
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    Admeck should NOT be champion.

    Khan has gotta be above Maidana. I dont have a problem with Fighters having a limited number of fights, or even 1 fight if ts been against world class oponent.

    If you dont rank Khan in top 5 then Haye shouldnt be top 10.
     
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    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can we at least agree that Adamek should not be ESB Champ?:good
     
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    agreed his last fight was bobby gunn!
     
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    Why should Adamek not be champion? He beat Cunningham after all.
     
  14. kosaros

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    I will break it down as to why I see Maidana being over Khan:

    Maidana lost, albeit controversially, to Kotelnik - a top 10 fighter in the division
    Maidana beat Ortiz - a top 10 fighter in the division

    Khan beat Kotelnik - a top 10 fighter in the division
    Khan lost to Prescott - a fighter outside of the top 100 at lightweight

    These are the defining fights of both fighters, the rest of their records are pretty evenly matched - this is why I rank Maidana over Khan.
     
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    Read back the last two pages or so, Ish. There's around 4 of us in agreement over Adamek. What do you think of Maidana's and Khan's rankings? Fair or Pear (I made that up:yep)? Forget about Khan not being at the weight long as I've already dispelled that arguement with bringing up Pacman's only fight at 140.

    I can't wait for the P4P one, it's gonna really heat up in here! Kos will end up having a stroke if we, mainly me I'll add ATM, keep pressuring him!