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  1. 'Ben'

    'Ben' Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where does everyone think the winner of the super middleweight tourney get placed P4P if they come out undefeated?
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Looking through the fightnews rankings I've decided on these names for consideration for my second tier;

    Is there a rule that guys that havn't fought for a year can't be included? If thats the case I'll have to remove Mayweather and Vasquez, bump everybody up one and pick 7 from these.

    David Haye
    Tomasz Adamek
    Mikkel Kessler
    Kelly Pavlik
    Tim Bradley
    Arthur Abraham
    Juan Diaz
    Joan Guzman
    Chris John
    Fernando Montiel
    Vic Darchinyan
    Anselmo Moreno
    Hozumi Hasegawa
    Nonito Donaire
    Ivan Calderon
    Roman Gonzalez
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    dont you start :good

    I think Bradleys speed surprised Campbell and he couldnt get set and then lacked a game plan, Bradley is definitly above Hatton beating Holt, Witter and Campbell IMO compare to Hattons recent form which was Urango about a year and a half ago, malignaggi and a destruction by Pac man

    just been told campbell was bleeding behind the eye, which can cause blindness! :shock:
     
  4. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty high but it also depends on what other fighters in other divisions do in tyhe meantime as well. Who knows what someone else might achieve in the next few years? Pac might bea HW!


























    (Just a joke)
     
  5. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just think because of his overall long term dominance at 140 Hatton should still be above Bradley ATM- if Hatton doesn't fight before Bradley's next fight then Bradley should move above him, IMO.

    Bloody hell- bleeding behind the eye. Bradley's head must be made of stone.
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Long term achievemnets dont mean **** all, otherwise Holyfield would be Number 1 at Heavy. Bradley has achoved more recently so should be ranked higher.

    Well you seen the shape of his head and hes shaved it bold, never a good combo fro an opponent
     
  7. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think this was my final draft- it's only fair as I've seen everybody else's:good. I can't remember if we excluded Izzy due to inactivity:think.
     
  8. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I said long-term in conjunction with present^^^. Keep up, Pater. I mentioned a solid win over Malignaggi- a guy many picked at the time to outslick Hatton^^^.
     
  9. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    11. Rafa Marquez

    I figure since now I'm in the realms of subjectivity and ability mostly, the records are somewhat much of a muchness, I've gotta go for a proven guy that is only marked down because of losses to a top 5 p4p fighter, and inactivity.
     
  10. 'Ben'

    'Ben' Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I reckon Paul Williams, Edwin Valero, kell Brook, J M lopez and either Froch or Kessler will be the new new P4P kids on the block in the very near future, and the new P4P elite.
     
  11. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Time will tell if Valero and Lopez live up to the hype. Juanma, IMO, will achieve more than Valero, though.
     
  12. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think we agreed to keep Vazquez in and not Mayweather, because Mayweather retired.
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Holyfield has recent form aswell. :deal

    well many people picked Hatton to beat Pac and he got bombed out and looked shot, is that present enogh for you
     
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    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    If we're ranking Vazquez then I'll have to redo my list.
     
  15. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    :huh I would have thought it would be the other way round if anything. Retired or not Mayweather has a fight coming up in only a months time, and is by all accounts 'back for good'.

    Vasquez..who knows?

    There should be a consistent ruling of some sort. Either all guys that havn't fought for a year are out regardless. Or all guys that are out for a year and havn't got a fight arranged are out. Or simply all guys that are not retired as we speak are included.