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  1. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    One thing about Monte Cox - like all people he does have his bias.

    For instance, he quotes a writer (Lotierzo) who says something in the words of: "Mayweather never sets a trap like Robinson vs Fulmer...". That is simply not true. Mayweather has done that several times with right hand leads and in fact did EXACTLY that when he knocked Hatton down the first time. Some people only see what they want to see. :-(
     
    ChrisPontius, Dec 12, 2007
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  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Hagler at 35 and Monzon at 45 isn't right for starters.
     
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  3. RoccoMarciano

    RoccoMarciano Blockbuster Full Member

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    :lol:
     
    RoccoMarciano, Dec 12, 2007
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  4. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    spinks didnt lose to c level fighters in his prime like olivares did. Whats his best win anways, lionel rose?
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Don't you be dissin' on Lionel Rose buddy. He's a helluva lot better fighter than COONEY!!!!!!!!

    :patsch
     
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  6. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    doesnt matter either way, qawi larry and eddie were all p4pers when they fought spinks. Spinks would have had a much better resume anyways if it wasnt for half the division at 175 ducking him nicely, especially matthew saad muhammad.
     
    brownpimp88, Dec 12, 2007
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  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Well i am not even going to begin to defend Olivares as you won't appreciate the finer points anyways.

    You are also wrong about Saad ducking Spinks as far as i am concerned. Speculation at best, utter crap at worst.
     
    JohnThomas1, Dec 12, 2007
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  8. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no it aint utter crap, saad did avoid him. You dont have to defend olivares, i know hes a top bantamweight of all times, is he greater than spinks, no he isnt.
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    Better supply your best sources that Saad avoided Spinks then.

    Put em up

    :yep
     
    JohnThomas1, Dec 12, 2007
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  10. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    just watch their post fight interviews from 81-80. Spinks thrashed him in sparring too back in 1977. You notice when spinks became champ, rossman, scott, mwale, koopmans and many other contenders never tried to fight him. Back in 83-84 he also called out marvin hagler and hagler never tried to fight him, cuz he would have gotten jinxed the **** out.
     
    brownpimp88, Dec 12, 2007
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  11. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Clarification of Cox's list, he makes it clear it's not his, rather he's just correcting the obvious flaws he saw in the list without attempting to re-write it.
     
    Vanboxingfan, Dec 12, 2007
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  12. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair enough, but his comment was made before the Hatton fight.
     
    Vanboxingfan, Dec 12, 2007
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    What sort of proof is this? The Classic forum demands a lot better and more conclusive stuff than this. Do you realise Saad lost his title just 5 months after Spinks won his? Spinks only had 16 fights before getting his shot, one can hardly say Saad was duty bound to fight a guy with 13 or 14 fights or be accused of ducking him, no?

    A closer look shows Spinks to be pounding on Saad retreads!! Take a look! Johnson, Yaqui Lopez a mere 3 months after Saad boned him out, Vonzell Johnson just 9 months after Saad gutted him, Spinks was picking on Saad's depleted victims.

    Saad didn't avoid Spinks one bit.
     
    JohnThomas1, Dec 12, 2007
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  14. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    What sort of proof is this? The Classic forum demands a lot better and more conclusive stuff than this. Do you realise Saad lost his title just 5 months after Spinks won his? Spinks only had 16 fights before getting his shot, one can hardly say Saad was duty bound to fight a guy with 13 or 14 fights or be accused of ducking him, no?

    A closer look shows Spinks to be pounding on Saad retreads!! Take a look! Johnson, Yaqui Lopez a mere 3 months after Saad boned him out, Vonzell Johnson just 9 months after Saad gutted him, Spinks was picking on Saad's depleted victims.

    Saad didn't avoid Spinks one bit. I'd bet if Saad beat Braxton Spinks would have been his next fight, or near certainly the one after. Might have been slated even.
     
    JohnThomas1, Dec 12, 2007
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  15. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    have u seen the post fight interviews after spinks kept beating his left overs. He said sign the contract!
     
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