Evander Holyfield and the backstabbers

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  1. ibragimovfan

    ibragimovfan Member Full Member

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    did you guys hear how punchdrunk evander sounded in the post fight interview and in the other interviews? if he doesn't stop he's going to get worse and worse....
     
  2. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  3. Tim

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    that's what everyone is afraid of.....that he WILL die trying to get a title. the guy is totally shot.
     
  4. nulty

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    It's about how quickly he bulked up and how after training the same plus the fact that age adds weight naturally that he's still around the same weight now that prompts questions. Plus who is Evan Field?
     
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  6. Tim

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    nor has barry bonds, but everyone knows he's juicing. that said, i don't know for sure if evander ever has, though...but it's not that hard to beat the tests.
     
  7. pipe wrenched

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  8. loveforboxing

    loveforboxing Active Member Full Member

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    I think Rocky VI had a big impact on these old fighters coming back from their retirements and giving it their last shot to once more get the thrill of holding one of these belts.
     
  9. heerko koois

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  10. Sonny's jab

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    Holyfield is kicking ass lately, so it's silly to say he should retire for his own health.
    All you guys squealing about brain damage etc. might as well say let's ban boxing. Maybe boxing is morally indefensible, but hey, that's not exactly news. Singling out Holyfield because he's old and used to be great is unfair.
    Wladimir Klitschko has been KO'd more times than Holyfield has, and everyone kisses Klitschko's ass.

    Holyfield's on a 4 fight winning streaK. Guys like Shannon Briggs, Lamon Brewster, Peter Okhello, Owen Beck, Jameel McCline and Monte Barrett all got title shots and who did they beat to deserve a shot ?

    People hate Evander because he obviously has self-belief that the rest of us could never match. It's pure jealousy.
    These guys who wrote articles a few years ago saying Holyfield is utterly finished and should be banned from fighting are now worried that Holyfield might actually prove to be among the world's best heavyweights. He might picked up a belt or two and prove all of them wrong.
    Of course, he might NOT. But while he's winning I dont see how he can be criticized for fighting.

    He's a fighter. That's what he does.
    The only reason we know who he is is because of what he does. He fights and he does not quit.
    And all you bitches who pretend to "care" about him, telling him to stop doing what he loves doing should just shut the **** up !

    You guys should just be thankful that you ever got to witness Holyfield practice his craft. None of you are worthy to tell him to quit.
     
  11. Sonny's jab

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    How am I delusional ?
    I say Holyfield is a fighter and that's why he fights. And he's winning his fights.
    Exactly, where is the delusion ?
    These are facts.

    So what ? There are plenty of guys who cannot take his punishment. This is boxing. Most fighters out there cannot take the punishment from the top 5 HWS, so why single out Holyfield ?

    What do you mean it "proves nothing" ? It proves he's too good for those 4 guys, and it also suggests he's too good for hundreds of others on that level.
    If a young prospect had a registered close win over Fres Oquendo and a complete battering of Saverese in the last 10 months people would be saying he might be quite good. But cos it's old Holyfield you dismiss it totally.

    Like I said, guys like Monte Barrett, Owen Beck, Shannon Briggs and Lamon Brewster and Jameel McCline got title shots with no better credentials.

    These are the facts. Who's deluded ?

    ......... in your opinion, and maybe you're right. But since when has being a level below the elite been a reason to be thrown away and retired and told to give up ?
    I mean, if everyone who wouldn't beat the champs was made to retire there would be no boxing.

    The point is, even the best get their asses kicked now and then. There are 30 year old journeymen fighters out there who've been beaten up 20 or 30 times, and are never in shape, so why all the fuss about Holyfield ?

    He's passed every advanced medical test going. He's undergone all sorts of tests. He's passed them all.

    Like I've said before, if slurred speech and brain damage was the issue then perhaps y'all should be calling for a complete ban on boxing. Holyfield is one of the few men who has passed all the current tests , he's undergone the most extensive examinations.

    There are hundreds of punch drunk boxers out there, young and old. Perhaps most boxers end up slurring - what do you want to do about it ?

    Of course. But he's doing well for a 44 year old. He aint getting whupped by the likes of Billy Zumbrun and Kevin McBride.

    It's not sad.

    "misguided" in your opinion.
    All fighters risk or damage their health.
    I think it's far more worrying that these journeymen desperate for money are risking their health and ruin their life just to pay the bills. That's the real tragedy.
    Guys like Holyfield, who are fit and are doing it for pride and glory, are a breath of fresh air.

    We watch the "opponent" types get pummelled on a daily basis probably because they have children to feed and no qualifications for other work, punched into oblivion for a few hundred or thousand dollars to pay the bills, and people wanna shed tears over Evander Holyfield ? (a man who is doing what he loves, with a whole team and a load of cash behind him).

    The hypocrisy is immense.
     
  12. markclow

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    I think he is a grown man and should be able to do what he wants in his profession. He is obviously very good at it.
     
  13. Loufatski

    Loufatski Boxing Junkie banned

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    This ******* has insulted Holyman and he has insulted the current HW champs, which in my opinion, are the best we've had in a long time.
     
  14. Grabonator

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    Let Holyfield continue. Hes healty and in great shape for an 44 year old man and he speaks clearly.
     
  15. sandwichsurgeon

    sandwichsurgeon Active Member Full Member

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    no he doesn't he slurs his sentences