Evander Holyfield vs Jack Dempsey

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Tunney was an outboxer, a toucher, an undersized guy who played the game at distance. He primarily knew how to fight in one mode (and against one kind of opponent). Vander had levels, gears. He could do distance or get in the mid range and throw exquisite combos, or get close and be dirtier than a Sunday hooker. Just because a guy has a jab and bounces a bit doesn't mean he has top level skills.
     
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  2. Boxing_Fan101

    Boxing_Fan101 Undisputed Available bookgoodies.com/a/1068623705 Full Member

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    How many fighters can boast a win over a prime Bowe, draw with Prime Lewis and two wins over a still tough and dangerous Tyson also another two very close losses against Bowe and Lewis, I would personally place this resume only second to Alis
     
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  3. slash

    slash Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tough call, but maybe.. just maybe..
     
  4. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    Holyfield by decision
     
  5. HomicideHank

    HomicideHank I believe in the transmigration of souls Full Member

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    That's false.
    Tunney could fight at mid-range and could throw short punches on the inside when he needed to. He could fight going forward and backward and went to the body too.
    Tunney is also the taller man with the longer reach, superior speed and superior ring awareness.
    You've clearly never watched his fights.
     
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  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dempsey did draw the color line.

    I’ll pass on the biting, though.
     
  7. SwarmingSlugger

    SwarmingSlugger Active Member Full Member

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    Yes like Jack Johnson and many others of the time period.
     
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    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now you're just talking factual nonsense - but of course you know that! So why??
     
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  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dempsey will make Holyfield fight, and this will be a brawl . Dempsey was ferocious and I think he ko's the natural non steroid version of Evander .
     
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  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yes, I've clearly never watched his fights. Tell me more about all the heavyweights he fought. Tell me more about the prime 200 plus pound athletes he fought.

    And are you suggesting that Tunney is taller than Holy with longer reach? And he only looks fast compared to the errr... complexion of the competition he chose.

    He was a fine lightheavyweight, albeit he drew the color line like a mug. He was a nothing at heavyweight.
     
  11. HomicideHank

    HomicideHank I believe in the transmigration of souls Full Member

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    We were talking about skills bud. Why bring in the colour of the guys he fought?
     
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  12. HomicideHank

    HomicideHank I believe in the transmigration of souls Full Member

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    My bad I got their heights mixed up.
     
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  13. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Levels you say ?

    Well. Holyfield is 1-2 some say 0-3 vs Bowe, 0-2 vs Lewis, 1-1 with Moorer, 1-1-1 vs Ruiz, even with PEd's he could never put together "levels" over other fighters, he was the father of inconsistency........but but Tyson Tyson, Tyson.....

    Facing Dempsey is a PED free Holyfield at 190 pounds max and would be almost a feather duster as far as heavyweight punching power is concerned.............even the PED version was a average puncher at best.

    This will be a brawl and Dempsey aint Bert Cooper, he will finish the job
     
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    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    in this case the guy who “Has a jab and bounces a bit” (Yikes) is better than the 147lbers we have today.
     
  15. slash

    slash Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tunney ranks above Holyfield now?