EVANDER: Why is he fighting for a title?

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  1. joeboxer

    joeboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    more boxing corruption.
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Deserving hasn't played a factor in a title shot in the HW division in years....
     
  3. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think T.Stout and thesandman give as good answers as any above. Holy is a big name, and an American name will sell in the US.

    Some fans have a hard time accepting this. Also the reason we have awful decisions.

    Don't know about that.
     
  4. dave

    dave Active Member Full Member

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  5. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The WBC had him at number 10 right after the Savarese fight - for some reason other than his title shot at Ibragimov, said to be a medical reason along with Brewster, Ruiz and Austin, dropped out of their Top 40 ratings - Odd fact 1.

    The IBF is into a tournament with four hwts including Chris Byrd ( with 1 comeback fight) and Calvin Brock ( who fought for their title recently, just before former mandatory challenger Ray Austin (???) and Lamon Brewster ( 0 comeback fights since losing the WBO Championship)) - odd fact 2.

    The WBA HWT Champion is injured and therefore, can't defend his Championship against all Top 15 rated hwts... - (not so) odd fact 3.

    The WBO Champion Sultan Ibragimov beat Shannon Briggs who for, some reason, had a title shot at Serguei Lyakhovich, and in the first defense of his title (Iggy) is perfectly entitled to make a voluntary defense against a WBO rated heavyweight - just like Floyd Mayweather can defend his WBC welterweight title against a top rated junior welter, Jermain Taylor defended his Middleweight title against once junior middles Kassim Ouma and Cory Spinks or Oscar De La Hoya could defend his WBC Super Welter Title against Floyd Mayweather himself before - well Sultan his defending his title in Moskow ( pretty Goddamn far from NYC medical commission and their diminuished skills bs reports) against a former 4 time HWT Champion who beat Qawi, Parkey, DeLeon, Thomas, Dokes, Steward, Douglas, Foreman, Holmes, Bowe, Mercer, Tyson, Ruiz and Rahman, lost narrow decision to and drew with Lewis... I guess that's acceptable and as long as Tony Thompson has his mandatory title shot secured afterwards, otherwise whoever doesn't want to see this ESPN PPV telecast, has Baby Bull fighting for a 135 pound unification on the same date or can watch any other fight for free.
     
  6. Sonny's jab

    Sonny's jab Guest

    He's won his last 4 fights.

    Monte Barrett got a title shot coming off a shitty boring loss and a layoff.

    Owen Beck was 1-1-1 in his last 3 when he got a shot.

    Liakovich was coming off a long layoff.

    Brewster just fought Wlad coming off a long layoff and a loss.

    Why are people bitching about Holyfield getting a shot ? :huh
     
  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Feel-good showbiz crap triumphs again. Holyfield will fight on and on and on until someone, probably Wlad Klitschko knocks him out so cold that he isnt able to fight again. As long as some sleazy promoter can make a buck off of him, he'll be used wrung out and then thrown away like a used tampon. He will never quit while on top, and he'll never quit after a defeat, unless it's so conclusive, and devastating, that he'll end up like Gerald McClellan. The two Russian twins, Chagaev, and Ibragimov wont be able to retire him, because they both have very similar, cautious, decision winning type of styles, but Wlad would be end for Evander. It's pretty unfortunate that it has to be this way.
     
  8. BoxingGuru

    BoxingGuru Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because...boxing is ****ing corrupt. He shouldn't be anywhere near a title.
     
  9. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, it is showbiz and that is as it always has worked, simple laws of offer and demand, money talks and bs walks or whatever other quote you wanna use for this matter - Holyfield has a name and supporters are willing to pay to see him fight for a world title, Iggy wants to cash in while he is an active fighter and a world champion, boxing follows the trends of globalization and action moves to Moskow wherein one hwt championship fight never was more than Rocky IV fiction - why shouldn't it happen? Cause there are "good samaritans" looking after Vander's health? Yeah Sure, like when Holy was about to be killed by Tyson but captured a 3rd world title instead ( and kayoing Tyson)... I've seen the Donald fight and Larry was pretty slick with one-twos that had no effect on his elder but to win a lopsided points decision, Holyfield still shook him late in the 10th and 11th so where does the NYC medical commision report stands? Exactly, on egg shells ( diminuished skills ah ah ah), they have nothing but Jack and S***, Jack left town! And that goes to Suleiman & Co since Evander was rated numba 9, dropped unfairly to 10 after winning over Savarese and being casted out for medical reasons - Toney's suspension is cutt to 6 months, two times caught and Holyfield is on medical :nut ? Vitaly Klitschko backs off twice for a 2nd title fight defense and is given emeritus status to fight the winner of Maskaev vs Peter ( Jose would even accept Vitaly's people to step Peter aside with money under the table), not to mention Oliver McCall, Juan Carlos Gomes and Samil Sam, the IBF tournament promoting new bloods Povetkin and Chambers and protecting used up Brock and Byrd and you guys talk about who Evander is affecting with this title shot? By the way, nobody wants another G man situation cobra but I sincerely doubt Wlad is the man to do it, actually I would use the Peter, Brewsta and Sanders fights altogether to claim for Wlad to get a medical suspension and doesn't get into a G man situation himself... No personal hatred for any fighter in particular, but we all know how this works, you can use corruption terms or others, bottomline is that Evander is out of the picture if he loses but then, if Holyfield wins, what else can you work out to dismiss him still? I give him a chance and would like to see him versus Wlad if the IBF doesn't disallow the latter to cash in as much as 20 million after the 1st Murad Muhammad offer.
     
  10. T.S.

    T.S. T.Stout Full Member

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    Oh yeah many examples of that in pro boxing
    Don King knew that Ali had a hole in his membrane that seperates his brain from his skull. (Caused by a million blows to the head over the years of course) Yet, he promoted the fight against Trevor Brerbick anyway.
     
  11. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's only fighting for the WBO title. Don't worry about it.
     
  12. TheGrimReaper

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    7. Layahovich-has another fight set up

    What is it?
     
  13. LONE WOLF

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    It's quite sad really.
     
  14. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    If somebody offered Ibragimov (or anybody else for that matter) to fight a brown paper bag for that that kind of money that Holly brings - he will fight the brown paper bag.

    Paper bag UD 12.
     
  15. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Evander is fighting for a title because he can
    ---- still fight (this is what he does for a living),
    --- possibly beat this guy and win (just happens to be in great shape),
    --- sell tickets and make money (more money if he wins)
    --- be the best available replacement for Chavaev (Jackoff),
    --- still beat most of the heavyweights out there.

    If people do not want to pay and watch him fight --- then dont.
    There are still alot of people that do indeed want to see Evander fight and win another title.
    As a matter of fact, Evander will sell more pay-per-views than the guy he fighting (whatever his name is) or the guy that he is replacing (Jackoff).