Even fight utnil the last round

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  1. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The name for Lomo is "Poetry in Motion"....
    seriously ,look at his bouts ,then look at the so say P4p guys fLUID & Grabber wARD...(see what I did there, gave them the respect they deserve) & tell me who the better Boxer / Craftsman is...GGG /Kovalev/ wARD/ fLUID none come close.
    Who did imo, The great Gene Tunney, Sugar Ray Leonard , the young Roy Jones Jnr, Sugar Ray Robinson, Tony Zale, M. Ali, Joe Louis, Young Shane Mosley & not many will like this but Joe (kick Laceys ass) Calzaghe ...Lomo is in these guys company & he is near the top!
     
  2. Beremith

    Beremith Active Member Full Member

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    Early on Lomachenko was mostly landing light punches on Walters but Walters on the other hand was landing next to nothing and swinging at air. Later on Loma started sitting on his punches more and tagging Walters pretty hard. Then Walters quit. I believe the KO was coming.
     
  3. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    A grown man watching boxing with the sound off to then make a point on an internet forum.
     
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  4. Villain

    Villain Active Member Full Member

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    I don't know about that. Beating on a proud top rated fighter up until he quits in his own words is a pretty good case for a beat down. Not to mention him admitting he was hurt in the previous round. Guy was physically beaten up and mentally beaten down.
     
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  5. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Not a literal "beatdown" but by about the 3rd round you could clearly see the difference in skill level and you could see Walters was in over his head even as good as he is. Very impressive performance by Loma.
     
  6. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Look at Walters face after the fight
     
  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Ward-Kovalev was a fairly even fight, with Ward edging it out and winning more rounds to secure a come-from-behind victory after Kovalev had a fast start. That was much closer to a "dead even fight".

    Lomachenko-Walters, however, was a mesmerizing mismatch of epic proportions. It was in no way, shape, or form "a dead even fight".

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  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    :qmeparto::qmeparto::qmeparto:

    When your opponent has six rounds plus a KD in the bank, the only way to secure a come-from-behind victory is by KO.
    An ass-kicking was dispensed there.

    Closer than Loma-Walters as Andre actually won some rounds, but overall, an ass-kicking nevertheless.:sisi1


    This much is very true !
     
  9. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    LOL @ "utnil", morom!
     
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  10. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What conjured up fantasy land are people creating in their own heads where Ward deserved to win that fight? Probably the same people who picked Hopkins to KO Kovalev and Walters to give Lomachenko trouble.
     
  11. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    :facepalm:
     
  12. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    With all due respect, I ask you kindly share whatever it is you've been smoking, cuchulain. Deep down you know that was a toss-up fight that could have gone either way, with many close rounds. It was not the robbery many delusional fans are whining about (yourself included, seemingly).

    But rest assured, Kovalev will get another crack at Ward sooner or later. But I'm inclined to believe that Ward undoubtedly learned more about optimal distance and range than Kovalev did. So I'd be surprised if Sergey improved on his first effort. I'm imagining a more decisive victory for Ward in a rematch.

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  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Robbery is too strong a term.

    Live , I had it 116 - 111 for Kov.


    Rewtaching after the shock of the scoring, I scored six rounds clearly for Kov, three clearly for Andre and three that were close.

    If you give all three close rounds to Ward, you get, with the KD, 114 -113 Kov.

    And that's as generous as I could get for the Irishman !

    To have the score the judges had, you had to find 7 of the final 10 rounds for Andre, and that I could not find.


    Boxing experts (writers, commentators etc, ) had it by a two to one margin (approximately) for Kov.

    Casual fans were much wider (more than 3:1) in favour of the Russian.

    Kov was the effective aggressor for the great majority of the fight, scored the more telling blows (they actually moved Ward, but not vice versa), busted up Ward's face and knocked him to the canvas/

    You could tell by the facial expressions of both men at the reading of the scores, who they felt had won





    p.s.
    On the HBO feed I watched, the most Ward-friendly commentary came from Max K. He found no fault with the scores.

    A week later, he had actually scored it 114-113 for Kov, and that was giving all the close rounds to Ward.
     
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  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That is the crux of our disagreement. Six clear rounds for Kovalev is beyond a stretch, IMO.

    Rounds 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, and 12 were all close rounds.

    But like I said. We'll see these two do battle again. How do you see that playing out?
     
  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well, not in the minds of most who scored it !


    I'm traveling at the minute and don't have the specifics in front of me.

    Hard to say.

    Ward has the advantage in that he probably learned more from the encounter than did Kov.

    Kov clearly feels robbed and thus has a bit of incentive to take it out of the judges hands.

    I hope it will be an equally good fight.

    It should not take place in the US and there should be NO AMERICAN JUDGES !

    (Larry Merchant called it god old-fashioned home-cooking ).





    BTW, did you see my response to you re the Loma-Walters bout ?

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/thread...-post-fight-recap.577253/page-2#post-18269825