Expert opinions on Frazier vs Tyson

I wouldn't put Bonavena in the top30 for punching power among the heavyweights.
It's also worth noting that Fleischer never ,Foreman,Bruno,Ruddock,Morrison,Lyle ,Shavers,Wilder,Joshua,Tua,Ibeabuchi ,Wlad,
Vitali,Lewis ,Tyson etc.

 

Frazier won the FOTC and win or lose his performance in Manila with one good eye is one for the ages. Yes Foreman dropped Joe 6 times including an illegal shot to the back of the head. BUT Frazier got up 6 times. Tyson couldn't even get up against Douglas. Give me a break. Joe is so much tougher than Mike there not even in the same league in that dept.

 

Frazier beat an Ali who had 18rounds of boxing under his belt in the previous 4 years,imo had Ali had more time to prepare for the fight and regain his legs and stamina, he would be 3-0 against Joe.I didn't bring up Frazier's record against greats ,you did and you said he beat greats,he didn't, he beat 1 great heavyweight once in 3 tries.

 

Tyson fought more punchers than Frazier this is irrefutable.

 

Nope, Fleischer died in 1972 Shavers and Foreman were fighting nobodies then.

 

And Tyson didn't beat any

 

Yes he did it in his first try,a great accomplishment that I don't think he would have achieved had Ali entirely shaken off his ring rust and regained his timing and stamina. I understand you are a big Frazier fan and why not ? There is a lot to like about the man, but implying I am deceitful is rather extreme and smacks of butt hurt.

 

No not anywhere near their prime,[Holmes ,] but I never suggested he did and I didn't make it plural either.I could say your doing so was innacurate intentionally deceitful and wrong but I prefer to say unintentionally gramatically incorrect.
Frazier has one great win FOTC
Tyson's wins stack up pretty well against Frazier's others imo.
Tucker,Thomas,Williams, Smith, Tubbs,Berbick, Biggs,Golota,Spinks,Stewart.compare very favourably with.
Quarry,Ellis,Ramos,Bonavena,Mathis,Chuvalo,Bugner, imo .

 

Even if he did see them in their early stage of development he still never saw the superheavies that followed them so his statement ,[which I have yet to see a primary source for,] is pretty meaningless. More meaningful is the answer to this question.
Q.Who is the best fighter Bonavena ko'd?
Here is a fact about Ringo.He never ko'd a ranked heavyweight.

 

Fair enough but the bottom line still is Tyson never beat an ATG. Holy looked like crap against Cyze befor he fought Tyson then man handled him and kicked his butt. In the rematch Tyson broke mentally right off the bat. Frazier was amongst the mentally strongest fighters ever period.