Explain the Ducking History of Great Fighters Part I: Roy Jones

that is pointless that he was 'thinking' of going up to Heavyweight. He didn't do it until well after that despite stringing Buster Douglas around. Even then a Douglas fight was pointless. Which is no shock as that was what Roy liked to do talk big and then not make the fights when it came time.

 

He was a former jr middle..Talk big the proof is on tape !


Name another former jr middle that competed at HW and won a belt give me the list !

 

KillSomething,

It may look good on paper that he fought them four times, but not in reality.

If he'd have beaten Eubank comprehensively in the first fight, a rematch wouldn't have been necessary.

He fought Benn twice, because Benn had twisted his ankle in the first fight. But he should never have been fighting him at that point anyway.

Also, there's no way you'd have given Roy huge credit if he'd have beaten Collins. You wouldn't have classed that as a great win. We know that from all of the nonsense that you've written.

 

KillSomething,

Roy targeted Toney at SMW after he'd beaten Hopkins.

Why do think that Collins didn't have a great resume at MW, yet got a better one at SMW?

Also, HBO wanted Roy to unify with Reggie.

 

We have been through this. At one point in time Billy Conn was a former jr middle as well. As was Bob Foster and every one else that moved up and tried to beat THE champion. So what if they lost? They were fighting legit ATG's they weren't fighting John freaking Ruiz :rofl

You have already been told the equivalent of what Roy did would have been Spinks moving up and fighting Witherspoon or Berbick instead of Holmes. Those fights would have been meaningless. It was a circus fight for a worthless paper belt that meant nothing. And Jones for some reason didn't fancy himself to try and stay at Heavyweight and defend his belt against a mandatory something he had ALWAYS loved to do. Tells me all I need to know.

Jones should have fought Lennox Lewis to be on a level playing field with all the others. He didn't. It is why HBO called him 'Reluctant Roy' and there was a Roycott against his PPV's. People were tired of the smoke and mirrors.

 

really like this quote regarding Nunn from the other thread

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Goyourownway


Nuns was washed up by the time he was a mandatory. He got schooled by Rocchigiani, won a debatable decision over John Scully and hadn't done anything of consequence since losing to Liles ( @ Nunn being robbed.)
"
How this is never taken into account I don't know why

 

So how many guys have done that ? How many in total ?

And he didn't fancy himself staying at HW because couldn't get Holyfield ,Tyson or even Lennox ..Don't act like he wasn't trying to get these fights ! You have been provided proof of negotiations and videos of conversations that took place !

And level playing field none of those other guys fought a guy as big as LL see where your double standards are ! GTFO

 

I've got to give you credit.

You're the Audley Harrison of ESB.

You keep getting knocked out, yet you still return for more punishment.


1. He met with Evander and Thomas.

2. He ended up fighting at HW.


Yet another pointless post from yourself.

 

Rico Harrison

 

Ruiz was a meaningless win for the WBA belt, yet you whine that he didn't face Sanders for the WBO.

HBO were so unhappy with Roy, that he fought on their network about 30 times.

 

:rofl

 

Yet the same belt Roy fought for Didnt David Haye recently win ? I don't hear to many people saying his win was meaningless ..

 

Rico is possibly the most delusional butthurt poster on ESB... He has been crying like a little sissy about Roy for years now.

 

I always wanted Roy to fight Nunn in 97, but he wouldn't have gotten any credit had he beaten him. When you've got an agenda, you'll try and find anyone you can, just to argue.

Let's be realistic, if Roy had beaten Nunn and Collins, but not Reggie or Hill, we know how this debate would be going down. Guys like KillSomething would have said Nunn was washed up, Collins wasn't great, and that Roy ran from Reggie and Hill. Roy would have needed to have fought 100 times to have satisfied everyone.

As it stands, these guys are claiming he ducked guys, just based on the fact that he didn't fight them. But if you throw examples up of other fighters missing guys, that was due to specific reasons. Other fighters missed guys due to circumstances, but Roy missed them, simply because he ducked them. atsch


On KillSomething's other thread, he copied a list of guys who Roy didn't fight during his SMW reign. It was from another forum.

There were 13 fighters who were supposedly deserving of a fight with Roy, and Roy apparently ducked them.

Below are six fighters from the list:


Iran Barkley - NO FIGHTS AT 168, during Roy's reign.

Victor Cordoba - Just ONE win against Tim Hillie, and I don't know if that was at 168 or 175.

Van Horn - NO FIGHTS AT 168 during Roy's reign.

Ray Close - Just ONE FIGHT at 168, a loss to Eubank in their rematch.

Rocchigiani - Just ONE FIGHT at 168, a draw against Seillier.

Frank Nicotra - Just ONE FIGHT at 168, a win against Hedi El Assaidi.

 

:good