Explaining the scorcards

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by escudo, Sep 16, 2017.

  1. BCS8

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    I felt that Golovkin just wanted it more whereas Canelo was pretty much doing what I thought he'd do - look good for a minute of each round while losing the rest of the time. I value aggression and workrate, and that's what Golovkin had. Canelo is more exciting to watch when he's letting rip with his bursts of aggression, I'll give him that much. I had it 7-5 GGG on the first watch. Maybe my opinion will change when I watch again.

    I honestly don't see a score more than maybe 2 rounds either way to either man, regardless of scoring criteria.

    It was a good close fight and Canelo proved more than Golovkin, I think.

    We always knew GGG would eat up Canelo's shots and that he would sustain the pressure all the way. We knew that he would work harder. This he did.

    But Canelo proved that his chin is hard as nails, that his speed is undiminished, and that he can rally late if he really has to. He proved that he deserves to be at 160, which I had my doubts about.

    I am likewise looking forward to a rematch.
     
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  2. boxerfan13

    boxerfan13 Member Full Member

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    But I'm not a GGG fan? I bash him left and right lol
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with every word here.

    As you say there were many close rounds and I can see how you'd give it to Golovkin, but can anyone dispute that Canelo landed the cleaner and better punches? And he also made Golovkin miss a lot. So he was superior in clean punches and defense. Should this be overruled by Golovin's aggression? I don't think so. I think there's way too much emphasis on aggression and activity in scoring. If the aggression means you're walking into punches and the activity that you miss a lot, what good are they?

    They whole idea in boxing is to hurt your opponent more with your punches than he hurts you. I think Canelo did just that. I don't understand the controversy at all.
     
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  4. splatter69

    splatter69 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    GGG imposed his will on Canelo. Canelo likes to and is good at fighting off the ropes. However as the fight wore on he found himself on the ropes more and more and not by choice. By effective pressure. He'll at some points he was just back pedalling while GGG cut the ring...and literally ran in to get at him.Did Canelo land some effective counters .. Yes. But I'm sorry when you get pressured to the ropes time after time and eat punches....don't be fooled by the GGG only landed jabs b's you aren't winning those rounds in my book. It was competitive but I had GGG winning clearly.
     
  5. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As you say there were many close rounds and I can see his you'd give it to Golovkin, but can anyone dispute that Canelo landed the cleaner and better punches? And he also made Golovkin miss a lot. So he was superior in clean punches and defense. Should this be overruled by Golovin's aggression? I don't think so. I think there's way too much emphasis on aggression and activity in scoring. If the aggression means you're walking into punches and the activity that you miss a lot, what good are they?

    They whole idea in boxing is to hurt your opponent more with your punches than he hurts you. I think Canelo did just that. I don't understand the controversy at all.[/QUOTE]

    Thought Canelo landed the flashier punches for sure and the close scoring was no surprise to me, but Golovkin's jab, work-rate and ring generalship can't be ignored. I believe he gave as good as he got coming forward in most cases but with the other criteria included I think GGG edged the fight, but it was CLOSE!

    Canelo seemed to me to be fighting only the last minute of the rounds, at least at first. His stamina did surprise me though and he had a lot more left for the championship rounds than I was expecting. Canelo has fought lesser fighters and rested during the rounds quite a bit. He was better at disguising it this time, but he also did it less. I was expecting him to tire a lot more than he appeared to. Can't remember the stats, but it didn't look to me like Golovkin through enough to the body.

    At the end of the day it was a great competitive fight, no belts changed hands so no robbery imo, and we get to do it again in May 2018. It's been a great year in boxing!
     
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  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I felt when watching it that Canelo was going to be hurt in the scoring by his tactics. I think he had the better of just about any occasion when he let his hands go, but by interspacing his burst of activity with long periods of backpedalling I had a strong feeling he let Golovkin win rounds on the judges' card without landing anything substantial. That proved to be the case, and even more so for most other observers.

    In the rematch he must have more and longer bursts of activity if he's to win, I think. That will of course bring a higher risk since Golovkin showed again how monstrously strong he is in just coming on, even when hit by hard clean punches.
     
  7. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, you suck at scoring horribly and there is no reasonable conversation to be had here.
     
  8. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your scorecard is BS
     
  9. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think a draw is perfectly possible but I just dont see 7 Canelo rounds let alone 8 to 10

    Canelo fought very smart I felt and was a very illusive target and ooooo and ahhhh'd the judges with very flashy punches

    He was such a difficult target I really underestimated his upper body moving. He never let Golovkin truly get comfortable with getting full torque on anything

    But Golovkin from 3-9 pretty much took over the fight