Fans perceptions. A question (Bute and Froch)

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  1. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Very fair.
     
  2. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    So, because a ref did a bad job, you lost respect for a boxer?
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I like Froch, I like Ward, I like Kessler, and I like Bute

    I don't really like Abraham and Dirrell. Actually, I like Abraham a little. I'm not a fan of Dirrell, but sometimes i do enjoy his fights. Some things he does well.
     
  4. SomeGuy101

    SomeGuy101 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you think Taylor was 'clearly' outboxing him you haven't watched the fight or you can't interpret rounds correctly.

    The whole 'taylor was clearly winning' line is span by yanks and clueless boxing fans via word of mouth. Watch the fight from rounds 5/6 onwards Froch clearly pulls any losses back but you keep going by the 'official' scores made by cought judges in a nationally hometown fight by a hometown nationally syndicated network that's backing him.

    Oh btw our governments officially went to war to bring democracy to the arab countries yet the irish who said no to the euro vote still had it imposed upon them but as the government tells them they live in a democracy it must be true..............right?
     
  5. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Taylor was ahead by 2 before the beginning of the 12th round. I won't comment the rest of your delirium.
     
  6. artful

    artful *practice makes perfect* Full Member

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    who won? Bute is mute.
     
  7. SomeGuy101

    SomeGuy101 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good. Then you won't comment on the fact you've just referenced press row and not judges scoring which would - at the very least - give Froch a draw since he scored a KD in round 12.

    But whatever you clearly are blind because I highlight what you state and explain truth in fact yet you'll still make some bull**** excuse.

    A 2 point lead in round 12 means Taylor was 'clearly' winning the fight?
    ROFL. I'm going to wake my GF and do her up the backside. No point coming back here tonight.
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was being a little harsh in saying clearly outboxing, but Taylor did deserve to be ahead at the time and had scored a knockdown. Although some rounds were close and could have gone either way, I didnt think Froch had won many more than say 3 rounds or so when I watched it. Will have to rewatch it.
    Still it is the official card that would have counted which is my point as I think Bute should have had a stoppage loss, which he doesnt, so officially Bute is an undefeated fighter and because of that has claim to being the #1 SMW, he wouldnt with a loss, official or not
     
  9. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Of course, Froch won. Still, he was losing on points when he knocked Taylor out. That's all we are saying, now calm down.

    Anyway, I forgot to put you on my ignore list.

    You are too dumb. I won't spend time with you anymore.
     
  10. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Two points can be a clear decision, when all the rounds are easy to score. That's all. Don't get mad. Of course, even if Taylor would have been able to continue, the fight was a draw. That's how I saw it.

    Now if you look at the real judges, two of them had a 4 points lead for Taylor. He was clearly losing in their eyes.
     
  11. aliviu_emilian

    aliviu_emilian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It`s obviously a thread of somoone who doesn`t stand the succes of Bute.

    Pascal lost to Froch and now is lineal champion at LHW.He continued with a big victory with Dawson and a draw with Hopkins.Some said that defeat took pascal at that level.

    Paquiao has three defeats and Mayweather none.Who cares?everyone who knows boxing knows who`s No. 1 now.

    If Bute would have been lost he woulde recaptured the belt in the rematch.The only problem would have been his record and maybe the amount of the purse in final negociation.

    A defeat or two can make you even a better and finally greater boxer which I think happened to Bute.
     
  12. aliviu_emilian

    aliviu_emilian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :deal
     
  13. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    My perception of Froch would have changed significantly for I never believed in his abilities to outbox top contenders yet see him as capable to turn the tide with a couple of punches.

    On the other hand, my perception of Bute wouldn't have changed. Though he won the fight ''technically'' the feeling that he ''lost'' and that he needed to avenge his lost were present.
     
  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Very honest
     
  15. SolkaTruesilver

    SolkaTruesilver New Member Full Member

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    If Bute had lost Andrade 1, there would still had been the rematch, no?

    And we all know how unilateral that was. I would probably have attributed Bute's 1st lost to a fluke.