Featherweight Survey (POLL CLOSED)

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  1. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    1.Henry Armstrong
    2.Willie Pep
    3.Sandy Saddler
    4.Salvador Sanchez
    5.Alexis Arguello
    6.Jim Driscoll
    7.Kid Chocolate
    8.Vincente Saldivar
    9.Abe Attell
    10.Terry Mcgowern
     
    dmt, Jan 19, 2010
    dmt, Jan 19, 2010
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Nice buzzer beater. :good
     
    IntentionalButt, Jan 19, 2010
    IntentionalButt, Jan 19, 2010
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  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :lol:
    dmt is good.

    Poll Closed
     
    Rumsfeld, Jan 19, 2010
    Rumsfeld, Jan 19, 2010
    #93
  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    The following lists have all been logged.

    1. Rumsfeld
    2. mckay_89
    3. McGrain
    4. My2Sense
    5. Mendoza
    6. mcvey
    7. WhataRock
    8. the cobra
    9. Gpater11093
    10. PowerPuncher
    11. Boilermaker
    12. essexboy
    13. Tbooze
    14. danceken1
    15. PunchOut
    16. Minotauro
    17. Ezzard
    18. asero
    19. natonic
    20. Sweet Pea
    21. Mr Butt
    22. anarci
    23. turpinr
    24. Drew101
    25. sugarsean
    26. g.dog
    27. janitor
    28. Boxing Girl
    29. IntentionalButt
    30. dmt
     
    Rumsfeld, Feb 9, 2010
    Rumsfeld, Feb 9, 2010
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  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Apologies for the long delay, people.


    1. 547 Willie Pep (13)
    2. 442 Henry Armstrong (6)
    3. 399 Sandy Saddler(4)
    4. 314 Salvador Sanchez (5)
    5. 129 Abe Attell (1)
    6. 115 Jim Driscoll
    7. 109 Alexis Arguello
    8. 88 Vincente Saldivar
    9. 67 Manny Pacquiao (1)
    10. 61 George Dixon
    11. 59 Terry McGovern
    12. 56 Kid Chocolate
    13. 47 Eusebio Pedroza
    14. 46 Azumah Nelson
    15. 18 Marco Antonio Barrera
    16. 12 Danny Lopez
    17. 9 Ernesto Marcel
    18. 8 Battling Battalino
    19. 6 Erik Morales
    20. 5 Young Griffo
    21. 3 Jeff Fenech
    22. 2 [tie] Young Corbett II
    22. 2 [tie] Tom Johnson
    22. 2 [tie] Johnny Dundee
    25. 1 [tie] Alberto Baby Arizmendi
    25. 1 [tie] Davey Moore
    25. 1 [tie] Freddie Miller
    25. 1 [tie] Prince Naseem Hamed
     
    Rumsfeld, Feb 9, 2010
    Rumsfeld, Feb 9, 2010
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  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Here is the distribution of votes.
    TOTAL LISTS MADE - NAME - (1st-2nd-3rd-4-5-6-7-8-9-10)

    30 Willie Pep (13 8 6 3 0 0 0 0 0 0)
    29 Henry Armstrong (6 13 5 2 2 0 0 0 0 1)
    29 Sandy Saddler (4 7 13 3 0 0 2 0 0 0)
    28 Salvador Sanchez (5 2 0 11 1 6 2 1 0 0)
    19 Abe Attell (1 0 2 1 4 3 4 1 1 2)
    19 Jim Driscoll (0 0 1 2 6 4 1 1 4 0)
    24 Alexis Arguello (0 0 1 1 5 3 1 5 5 3)
    20 Vincente Saldivar (0 0 0 0 5 4 3 3 2 3)
    8 Manny Pacquiao (1 0 1 0 1 3 1 1 0 0)
    11 George Dixon (0 0 0 4 0 2 1 1 1 2)
    17 Terry McGovern (0 0 0 1 2 1 2 3 3 5)
    15 Kid Chocolate (0 0 0 1 1 1 4 3 3 2)
    10 Eusebio Pedroza (0 0 0 1 2 1 1 3 1 1)
    10 Azumah Nelson (0 0 1 0 0 1 6 1 1 0)
    6 Marco Antonio Barrera (0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 3 0)
    2 Danny Lopez (0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0)
    4 Ernesto Marcel (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 1)
    3 Battling Battalino (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1)
    3 Erik Morales (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1)
    2 Young Griffo (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0)
    1 Jeff Fenech (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0)
    1 Young Corbett II (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0)
    1 Tom Johnson (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0)
    2 Johnny Dundee (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2)
    1 Alberto Baby Arizmendi (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1)
    1 Davey Moore (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1)
    1 Freddie Miller (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1)
    1 Prince Naseem Hamed (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1)
     
    Rumsfeld, Feb 9, 2010
    Rumsfeld, Feb 9, 2010
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  7. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mr Butt, Feb 10, 2010
    Mr Butt, Feb 10, 2010
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  8. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    Switch Pacquiao with McGovern and you've got a decent top ten.
     
    essexboy, Feb 10, 2010
    essexboy, Feb 10, 2010
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  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I was going to include something like this in my write-up, actually.

    Pacquiao got fewer votes than anyone in the top 14, but he finished comfortably in 9th.

    For someone with so few fights in the weight class, think this is interesting.

    Also worth noting, I think, is the fact that Pacquiao is now only the 2nd active fighter to land a top ten spot in any division, with Hopkins being the other having finished 5th in the middleweight survey.
     
    Rumsfeld, Feb 10, 2010
    Rumsfeld, Feb 10, 2010
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  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    1. Willie Pep
    Total Lists: 30 (100%)
    First Place: 13 (43.3%)
    Top Three: 27 (90%)
    Top Five: 30 (100%
    Average Points: 18.2

    2.Henry Armstrong
    Total Lists: 29 (96.7%)
    First Place: 6 (20%)
    Top Three: 24 (80%)
    Top Five: 28 (93.3%)
    Average Points: 14.7

    3. Sandy Saddler
    Total Lists: 29 (96.7%)
    First Place: 4 (13.3%)
    Top Three: 24 (80%)
    Top Five: 27 (90%)
    Average Points: 13.3

    4. Salvador Sanchez
    Total Lists: 28 (93.3%)
    First Place: 5 (16.7%)
    Top Three: 7 (23.3%)
    Top Five: 19
    Average Points: 10.5

    5.Abe Attell
    Total Lists: 19 (63.3%)
    First Place: 1 (3.3%)
    Top Three: 3 (10%)
    Top Five: 8 (26.7%)
    Average Points: 4.3

    6. Jim Driscoll
    Total Lists: 19 (63.3%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 1 (3.3%)
    Top Five: 9 (30%)
    Average Points: 3.8

    7. Alexis Arguello
    Total Lists: 24 (80%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 1 (3.3%)
    Top Five: 7 (23.3%)
    Average Points: 3.6

    8. Vincente Saldivar
    Total Lists: 20 (66.7%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 0 (0%)
    Top Five: 5 (16.7%)
    Average Points: 2.9

    9. Manny Pacquiao
    Total Lists: 8 (26.7%)
    First Place: 1 (3.3%)
    Top Three: 2 (6.7%)
    Top Five: 3 (10%)
    Average Points: 2.2

    10. George Dixon
    Total Lists: 11 (36.7%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 0 (0%)
    Top Five: 4 (13.3%)
    Average Points: 2.0
     
    Rumsfeld, Feb 10, 2010
    Rumsfeld, Feb 10, 2010
    #100
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    McGrain ranking on a h2h sense, who would have thought it :good

    For what it worth I don't favour anyone over Hank so he's my number 1.
     
    lufcrazy, Dec 19, 2015
    lufcrazy, Dec 19, 2015
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  12. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Young Griffo, the forgotten fighter.
     
    gregluland, Feb 28, 2016
    gregluland, Feb 28, 2016
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  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Best wins at Featherweight are?
     
    mcvey, Feb 29, 2016
    mcvey, Feb 29, 2016
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  14. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Griffo appears to have bested Dixxon twice, Gans twice, McAuliffe once, Murphy many times, Lavigne all off the top of my head. Some of those were officially draws but Griffo certainly was the superior fighter in those. The McAuliffe fight Griffo won despite it being the first ever, "Maxie Moore", in other words a robbery, Griffo was far superior and it was Jack's last ever fight and they wanted to protect his unbeaten record. Jack struggled to land a shot but did floor Griffo for a short visit. Griffo dropped McAuliffe in the 6th, now for a proper rundown it will take a visit to Cyber. I am surprised you have to ask, or are you just stirring ??????????????, Griffo was pretty washed up from 1897 onwards.
    He beat Young Peter Jackson, he beat Ike Weir, now most of these saw draw on boxrec, thats because if there was no KO then they are automatically a draw.... well Greb fans always complain that he won the second fight but if they wanna claim any of the above fights are draws then Greb lost 4 bouts against Tunney plain and simple, difference being that Griffo won even bigger, you have to read the reports to get the truth, Griffo was undefeated for his first 168 fights, name anyone who did that (and the 168th was the McAuliffe fiasco.
     
    gregluland, Feb 29, 2016
    gregluland, Feb 29, 2016
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    One of the Gans fights was a fake.

    Lavigne was robbed in one fight

    Chicago Tribune, February 11, 1894:
    "'Young' Griffo had a close call from defeat at the Lake Front armory last night in his eight round go with George Lavigne."
    "Lavigne's showing was a revelation even to his friends, and while George Siler, the referee, properly decided the affair a draw, as there was not enough advantage on either side to merit a decision if one had been given, Lavigne must have won. Griffo's admirers may take exceptions to this statement, but if they closely sum up the result of the fight they can hardly do so with justice."

    Griffo was 133lbs for the McCauliffe fight.

    "Dixon and Griffo entered the ring at 10:25 o'clock, and the 'feather' looked well, but was twenty pounds heavier than Dixon"

    I ask again, what are Griffo's best wins at featherweight?
     
    mcvey, Feb 29, 2016
    mcvey, Feb 29, 2016
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