Fedor is a ***** - Tim Sylvia

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Dostoevsky, Jan 2, 2008.


  1. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Both Sylvia, Couture and Gonzaga are better and worthier opponets than the pathetic array of opposition Fedor has recently faced. Don't try and call Gonzaga and Sylvia average and then gloss over what Fedor has faced.

    Sylvia,Gonzaga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HMC,Lindland,Oldman Coleman, Hunt and Zulu
     
  2. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Barnett looks like a sack.Has always looked like a sack. He could have been using those steroids for rehab.If they fought now the result would be the same.I wouldnt put to much emphasis on steroids.
     
  3. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Fedors opponents could be better considering his the best in the world but like PBF he makes it look easy. As for Gonzaga and Sylvia.The ARE average.YOU know this.
     
  4. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    But when you think about what helped him win the fight, what steroids can help you become and the fact that he tested for steroids positive afterwards certainly makes me think.
     
  5. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Fedor doesn't make them look, average, they are average. (or smaller or shot)

    HMC only had 1 MMA fight. He had no ground game.
    Lindland is a natural 185lb'er and doesn't have the frame for HW.
    Mark Hunt is probably Fedors best opponent throughout the years but still a kickboxer and relatively limited ground game
    Old man Coleman has not been good in years
    Zulu is a joke.

    Despite what you think Sylivia has victories over great opponents such as Arlvoski(x2) and Vera. Gonzaga is well rounded, has amazing BJJ and incredible power, he head kicked the ****ing **** out of CC who gave Fedor his toughest fight ever.

    Gonzaga and Sylvia are better and more legitimate opponents than Lindland and HMC.
    Niether Lindland or HMC were in the top 20 HW rankings at all. Both Gonzaga and Sylvia are. (Sylvia top 10)

    Gonzaga,Sylvia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HMC,Lindland,Hunt,Old man Coleman,Zulu
     
  6. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sylvia is the Yori Boy of Heaveyweight MMA - he fights anyone anytime because he has no choice, what a joke.

    Bartnett f'kin destroyed Couture worse than Rodriguez, GOnzaga and Sylvia were GREAT wins for a guy in his mid 40s, but thats it.
     
  7. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Well Fedor does have a choice and he doesn't choose to fight anyone anytime, he chooses to handpick **** opponents with no experience, are shot or opponents who are smaller than him.

    Yup, certainly better wins than against a freakshow joke and a natural 185lb'er for a guy in his early 30's. :good
     
  8. truepwrz

    truepwrz getting better and better Full Member

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    1.hmc is 360 at 7'2 i repeat and had enough fight experience to use his advantages greatly.

    2.matt lindland fights at 185 but would have to say he is at least natural 200, which at the fight they about weight the same, however if saying anything fedor can easily cut to light heavy. i am sorry but this is a heavyweight fight and they didnt need to be at a certain weight.

    3.mark hunt is still a great fighter due to his striking abilities

    4.mark coleman, no matter what you say was ufc champion once not to mention the only people that beated him recently was fedor(2x) and cro cop, not to mention he got 2 wins to boost his confidence before rematching with fedor.

    5.zulu was 390lb, 37-0 in vale tudo, and was 4-1 in mma before fighting fedor. not an easy opponent either.

    now tell me what can silva do that hong man choi cant?

    gongzaga can be an opponent for fedor but don't be too sure he can win.

    now quit hating on fedor
     
  9. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    I give up on you. You think Coleman was good at that stage of his career? :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:nut:nut:nut
    Zulu was dangerous?:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:nut:nut:nut Zulu is MMA's butterbean = A joke.

    Choi knows **** all on the ground so he wasn't experienced enough to fight there. Matt Lindland is NOT a heavyweight fighter, he's a middleweight fighter, a light heavyweight if you want to be generous. But he is certainly NOT a HW. He as much a HW as BJ Penn is a LHW(when he fought Machida)
     
  10. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's hilarious the UFC has wanted rid of Sylvia for years but the big ******* keeps winning :rofl
     
  11. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    The truth is he is tough to beat...a defensive counter puncher with a long reach and decent striking.
     
  12. iksrtfo

    iksrtfo Jedi Knight of Poon Full Member

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    I don't know,
    Fedor was a dominant champion in what many, at the time, considered the organization with the dominant fighters. He is offered two deals one from the the largest organization being the UFC and one from a smaller organization being M1. We all have seen the amount Pride paid the fighter compared to the amount the UFC paid there fighters and Pride paid a hell of alot more. I doubt Fedor's offer from the UFC was that good or he would be there.

    Why would he take a the lesser offer? To prove what? To fight three fights and possible lose and never get another deal like M1 is offering him right now?

    I put myself in his shoes and I would go where the money is. Money pays bills, legacy doesn't.

    IMHO, betting against Fedor is like betting against PBF at this point. I have no reason the think anyone else in that division can beat him from what I have seen.
     
  13. truepwrz

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    just saying those wins were not for sure... any fighter that fights those people will have trouble, especially tim sylva fighting hong man choi...

    i agree with iksrtfo, people go where the money leads them to, not only that a few reasons why fedor would perfer m-1 over ufc

    1.m-1 is in russia, where he lives, he gets famous there(fighting in ufc will be pretty hard to get famous in russia imo)
    2.m-1 is in russia, he doesnt need to pay tax twice when fighting normally in russia, pretty much means he will earn quite a bit more in his career
    3.he gets to continue competing in sambo

    those 3 reasons are more than enough to say **** kicking ass in ufc
     
  14. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    Could you give him a break? He does not own anybody anything - and I have not heard him making any claims whatsoever about himself - or other fighter.

    You do not think he is a good fighter? Do not think he is the best heavyweight? That's fine, you are in the good company. According to your idol D. White he is probably not even a top 10. Wonderful. Now just watch nothing but UFC - and live the rest of the world alone.

    The ***** here is Sylvia. Just running his mouth.
     
  15. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    You sure have a lot of strong opnions for somebody who have not even seen key match ups.