Fernando Vargas vs Sergio Martinez

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  1. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    :lol: agree "Martinez to much fire power" didnt martinez recently shocked us all by k.o.ing pw? Ppl were crying peds, and all of a sudden to much fire power? Vargas was a vicious fighter if anything Vargas to tough to strong for serg.
     
  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont give a **** if you "claim" to follow boxing for 50+ years, to call a prime Vargas ordinary is a stupid thing to say.

    If prime Vargas was at 154 today, there'd be no Alvarez's, Lara's, or Williams's near the top.
     
  3. Undisputed520

    Undisputed520 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vargas was slow, especially compared to Sergio. He was WIDE open for shots his entire career and he did not have world class power. I think Sergio is a terrible style match up for him. Sergio UD.
     
  4. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because anyone who actually watched boxing during the Vargas / Tito / ODLH / Mosely / Quartey era would know that Martinez doesn't compete with that group. At all. Any of them. It wasn't a fluke when Margo beat him, prime Margo is just better than Martinez. He'd probably beat him if they fought tomorrow. Vargas would bully Martinez all night long, and unless Sergio lands some eyes closed freak show shot right on the chin he probably wouldn't even have any good moments in the fight, it would just be a run of mill fight where Vargas steadily walks him down, hurting him and more likely than not stopping him. Tito would just absolutely molest Sergio.

    Martinez is the most overhyped fighter since Billy Fox.
     
  5. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ^^Noob who didnt watch Vargas till he was washed up


    Vargas had good handspeed..Not Ko artist but above average power.. He was nailed and took punshment vs Trinidad,,because he came in with a dumb fight plan, and stood in front of Tito early..

    Slow?? thats some bull****:lol:
     
  6. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    vargas also got groomed too early. he was still a spring chicken when he fought oscar and tito.
    5 years ago half of the people here never knew who sergio was..and he was 6 years older than vargas then!
     
  7. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vargas definitely wasnt slow but average at best..
     
  8. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dont bad rep the man. he was still young when he gave tito and oscar 2 terrific fights
     
  9. unsentdemon

    unsentdemon Active Member Full Member

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    People are underestimating the ****out of Vargas.Martinez is good,but to say that he Blasts Vrgas away or shuts him out is ludacris. Vargas had a Great chin, above average power, and good speed. Only reason Tito Knocked him down in the first is because he landed that hook from hell, picture perfect. that hook would've Ko'd many others and he still gave tito hell and lasted till the 12th round.
     
  10. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal






    Oh and Vargas by KO.:deal
     
  11. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vargas would had never had a tough fight with a hype job like Williams not to mention he would never get KTFO by a fighter like Margarito.:deal
     
  12. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not even in your wet dreams noob.
     
  13. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agree.
     
  14. JM22

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    :yep
     
  15. Royal-T-Bag

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    Martinez too quick for Vargas and has enough power to get his respect. Martinez by close but clear decision, Vargas was no joke and would rule the current LMW class with ease. Aside from Martinez I can't see anyone from 154-160 beating him.