Fight in the US,why?!?!?

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  1. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    It is. Damn sight better than the IBO though.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    NOW.

    But imagine that Calzaghe had got the Jones that just beat Ruiz?

    That would have been an absolute monster of a fight and Calzaghe could have won it. But that fight could only happen in America, and only for Calzaghe's third or fourth fight in America.
     
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    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    2 Defenses against #1 contenders is pretty weak. Not gonna lie.
     
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    ThePlugInBabies ♪ ♫ Full Member

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    prime jones beats calzaghe.

    post ruiz jones gets battered by calzaghe.
     
  5. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Eubank said no.

    Benn said no.

    McClellan-Benn was supposed to see who Jones would fight next, McClellan lost, Benn refused.
     
  6. ThePlugInBabies

    ThePlugInBabies ♪ ♫ Full Member

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    ****ing hell, have you actually seen post ruiz jones?

    he's nothing like the fighter he used to be, prime jones is as close to unbeatable as you'll ever see, and would probably score a late stoppage over calzaghe, but the post ruiz version with massively declining physical attributes would get mashed by calzaghe. he'd get beaten by all top rated middleweights.
     
  7. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    It's more of an anti-American thing than a pro-Calzaghe thing.
     
  8. ThePlugInBabies

    ThePlugInBabies ♪ ♫ Full Member

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    where the **** did i claim him to be great? where do i hint to comparisons with hagler? you are a blind and deluded fool.
     
  9. My dinner with Conteh

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    Ralph and Randy from Idaho. :good
     
  10. ThePlugInBabies

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    boxing4real?

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  11. ThePlugInBabies

    ThePlugInBabies ♪ ♫ Full Member

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    they basically laugh off anyone who isn't 'gangsta'. they get about 95% if their predictions wrong, and as far as i know, nobody enjoys their show.
     
  12. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you get a good laugh from watching all the wrong predictions they call, and their blind love for zab judah though.
     
  13. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    So much BULL**** in this thread, i need a firehose for cleanup:yep
    All those simply hating the US for the sake of it.....:finger
    Those hating NON-US for the sake of it.....:finger 2

    Nothing wrong with having major fights in any location.

    Glad to see Calzaghe vs Kessler over there, and if Hatton beats Floyd??
    There's little doubt in my mind we'll see a big defense or two IN THE UK.

    Quit ****ing :| about stupid **** and keep hoping that the best fights get made regardless of location:hi:

    Oh and boxing4 real idiots are hardly representative of the states. They are just a couple morons, enjoying the right to be what they are. Hardly anything that can be used CREDIBLy in debate.
     
  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wrong. Eubanks said no to Jones because he said he knew he couldn't beat him. Jones was NEVER a nobody having had a big spotlight on his head because of the olympic robbery. Eubank has said a number of times that he never fought Jones because he fought to win and Jones would have beaten him.

    Collins made a big spectacle of talking a whole lot so people like you would think he was doing something. But when HBO and Jones put an offer on the table, he refused. Same with Benn.

    Don't bring up McClellan. Everyone knows the deal there.

    You clearly know very little about the US. It isn't the same as the UK and fighting here is not like fighting in your home town. As has been said a 1000 times, if you are from Florida and fight a fight in New Jersey, they don't care that you are American....you are not from Jersey and thats all they know.

    You can try and point out exceptions to the rules all you like, but the fact is that most of the great fighters fight in the US (and NO they are not all Americans) and because of that the competition here is higher. Therefore, fighters who won't fight here miss alot of that competition. It has nothing to do with Ethnicity, nationality or anything like that and everything to do with comp.
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And who said this BS about Americans need every advantage in every sport we can get otherwise we cry about it? Can you give me an example please?

    BTW....it's called the World Series because the MLB fields the best teams overall. And they are not just American players. It is full of the best players from all over the world (except Cuba). Many of the best baseball players reside elsewhere....but they play for MLB teams in the US. That's why they call it the World Series. You will be hard pressed to find another league team from another country who could win a seven game series against the MLB best teams.