Fight stats for Dirrell/Froch

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  1. soapysouter

    soapysouter Active Member Full Member

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    dirrell landed over 85 total.And like you say quite a few snappy shots. Froch around 67, but nearly 40 of those were jabs and he landed maybe half a dozen snappy shots at a push.
     
  2. soapysouter

    soapysouter Active Member Full Member

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    Done my own fight stats having sat watching each round on replay, just the basics mind

    Froch threw 373
    Froch landed 67(38 jabs)
    % landed 18%

    Dirrell threw 309
    Dirrell landed 86(35jabs)
    % landed 28%





    After rewatching the entire fight, my scorecard

    Rnd 1 10-10 (23T 3L - 22T 5L)

    Rnd 2 10-9 Froch. Despite a couple of nice hooks by Dirrell, Frochs workrate wins him the round. (F 29T-5L - D 17T-5L)

    Rnd 3 10-9 Dirrell. Froch lands nice right hand, Dirrel lands nice counter and outlands during the right several straights to the body score. (F 21T-2L - D 20T-7L)

    Rnd 4 10-9 Dirrell. Froch throws alot of wild punches and misses, Nice RH to the body. Dirrel lands the best punches of the round, straight right counter. ( F 30T-4L - D 25T-6L)

    Rnd 5 10-9 Dirrell. Froch throws alot of jabs, but only connects with 4. Dirrell lands severall to the body and a big right hand. ( F 31T-4L - D 26T-7L)

    Rnd6 10-9 Froch. Froch finally gets in close and lands a couple of hooks and straights in the round. Dirrell lands little. ( F 31T-6L - D 21T-3L)

    Rnd7 10-9 Froch. Close round.Hardest one to count which punches connect. Froch manages to get away with throwing punches whilst holding. Lands several hooks.Dirrell lands a big left some straights and jabs. ( F 31T-10L - D 29T-8L)

    Rnd 8 10-10. Froch lands a big left whilst Dirrell lands a big right and a nice hook. Close round. ( F 28T-5L - D 22T-6L)

    Rnd 9 10-9.Dirrell. Both guys stepped it up, Froch threw alot and connected with 6 jabs. Dirrell landed his jab aswell as a couple of straights and hooks to win the round. ( F 40T-7L - D 30T-10L)

    Rnd 10. 9-9. Froch lands one eye catching jab.He likes to push down on opponents head with one hand whilst trying to throw uppercut.Dirrell lands some really nice lefts and wins the round. deducted 1 point for holding. ( F 32T-5L - D 33T-8L)

    Rnd 11. 10-9 Dirrell. Action round.Both fighter throw there most amount of punches in the fight. Froch landsa couple to the body, an upper cut and hook. But Dirrell lands some big shots, and stuns Froch towards the end of the round. ( F 41T-8L - D 36T-12L)

    Rnd 12. 10-9 Dirrell. Froch again lands his jab and several body shots and won the second part of the round. Dirrell landed early on and won ist half. Close round. ( F 36T-8L - D 28T-9L)

    My scorecard. 116-113 Dirrell.

    Two drawn rounds the first round I can't see any reason to give to either, has to be a draw. Rnd 8 Is close, Froch throws a few more, Dirrell lands one extra and the cleaner punches. Round 12 is up for debate also. so if you score the 8th to Froch and the 12 to Froch then It would be a draw.

    Froch threw alot of Jabs as he came forward that never seemed to have a chance of getting there, almost seemed like they were for the judges. If your coming forward and throwing jabs that are falling half a yard short you can't score him the round on aggression, he needs to be more effective, single punch, missing by alot aggression doesnt count. Dirrell never wasted a punch, he fought in bursts but was efficient.

    Having watched it again there is no way you can call it a robbery. Alot of close rounds which could be difficuilt to score on the night, add in Frochs aggression(so they say), Dirrells holding(which didnt seem as bad the second time round, and not as bad as Frochs antics at times), the home crowd cheering everything even though most of what was being cheered was wild punches being missed, then its clear that all the close rounds went Frochs way instead of being called draws or the couple that I gave to Dirrell(12th for example)

    ps trying to work out what connected and what didnt was difficuilt. Im not even sure they stats would even sound correct, but I gave it a shot never the less.:lol:
     
  3. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Take a look at your own shortcomings.
    Do you know the meaning of "effective aggression."?
    Do you know which fighter was making the fight.
    Do you know which fight was the "BOSS" by the end of the fight.
    This is not amateur boxing.
    Punch stats mean nothing if one is not effective.
    Bottom line.
    I am old school.
    Just tell me who was the Boss at the end of the fight.
     
  4. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had it 9-2-1 even for Dirrell. The score could have arguably been even wider. Cuz Dirrell won the round that was even clearly only that ****** ref deducted a point. Ok I dont have a problem with deducting a point from Dirrell,if the ref would have deductued Froch for hitting Dirrell repeatedly behind the head. The only round Froch won was not cuz he did anything special it was cuz Dirrell just didnt do much,or was running more than fighting. Even if you dont like his style fine thats your preferance,but he Outlanded Froch at least 2to 1 and hurt him at least once maybe even twice.
     
  5. T-smooth

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    GOOD POST!!!!:good
     
  6. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    THanks for going through the exercise! :good
     
  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Dirrell was on the canvas too much to fight.
     
  8. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Good post but the 1 thing i disagree with you is you give Froch round 2. Watch that round again. Thats the same round that Froch was reaching a very slow left hook that Dirrell duck his head back and quickly counter with 2 quick left hooks.
     
  9. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you didn't watch the fight!!
     
  10. tojikiston

    tojikiston Contender Full Member

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    THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE EFFORT!!!!!:good:good

    I don't think WE WILL EVER SEE THE "OFFICIAL" PUNCH STAT!!!!!!:-(
    Organizers have no balls whatsoever to release the numbers: cause it will show how USELESS CARL CROTCH IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:deal:deal
     
  11. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1) Who is "The Boss" at the end of the fight is utterly meaningless when you use round based scoring. If you whip the guys ass for the last five rounds you are unquestionably the boss at the end, but that doesn't mean you win unless you knocked him down.

    2) Neither fighter was "The Boss" at the end of the fight. They both looked to be in fine shape and neither was particularly busted up.

    3) Dirrell was stronger in the last rounds than Froch, particularly 10, 11, and the early part of the 12th, so if anyone was "The Boss" at the end of hte fight he was.

    4) What a dumb ****ing way to determine the winner of a fight.
     
  12. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Sounds like you were suprised then. It seems to me that Froch is seen to do better when people pay more attention, but Dirrell does better on a superficial showing. Obviously you still scored it for Dirrell but note how close lots of the rounds were. In my view, the fight contained so little positivity that any score from 7-5 Froch to 8-4 Dirrell can be legitimately defended.

    I'm starting to think that the people screaming robbery and saying that Dirrell 'clearly' won (a) didn't score the fight as they were watching and (b) probably weren't watching all that closely.
     
  13. soapysouter

    soapysouter Active Member Full Member

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    I still feel it was a poor decision, but having went through it like I did I can see there was a few rounds open to interpretation that previously I had just given as a certain Dirrell round. One thing I will say is Froch landed more than I thought, but alot of what he landed was with the jab or glancing blow, Froch landed two really bigpunches and one snappy jab throughout the whole fight, whereas Dirrell who out landed Froch also landed over a dozen big shots with snap.
     
  14. soapysouter

    soapysouter Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah those two hooks were sweet, and I think the first time I scored the fight I gave it to Dirrell. Perhaps having given the fight to Dirrell by a wide margin the first time around I was looking for reasons to score rounds for Froch to see If I can understand why he got the decision.
     
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    valdez Grand Champ Full Member

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    :deal