fighters who got caught using illegal substance or caught red handed in pro/amateur

Thank you for dismissing my post without addressing it. Thank you.

 

Well there you go.

 

by 'it is what it is' are you referring to corruption?:hey

 

I don't believe him as far as not knowing where to start to find illegal drugs. Because I wouldn't believe 98% of the population if they said that.

But... a violation and punishment was handed down. It just was not EXACTLY the same as testing positive, as other poster(s) have implied.

 

I'm referring to you, me, and everyone else knowing X information.

You, me, and everyone else can draw however many conclusions we want from X information.

But X information is what X information is. And, in this case, X information is not being caught using an illegal substance, as that is what this thread is supposedly about.

 

I guess its one of them cases where people can come to a logical conclusion based on what happened I suppose

 

Floyd was using Manny was most likely using as well.... not being punished or having a "violation" because you have a commission in your Back pocket ( see the 24-7 when floyd had an illegal gym and sparring drugs as well as i believe no licence for other fighters training at that gym at the time if I remember correctly etc). as well as your own your own paid to ignore drug testing things such as low TE and allowing less then 6-weeks testing medical exemptions for failing tests and refusing to actually implement tests that catch people even though charging significantly more then the comp VADA who actually catches cheats... USADA is corrupt as hell this is an age of steroid cheats unfortunate but true ( well really since the 70's most likely the upper tier probably have been juicing). :twisted:

 

Damn close. Haha

 

something permitted is not illegal

 

This.

See: "it is what it is."

Everything else is just our opinions. Which is fine. Just we have to recognize that it is merely an opinion.

Hey, I was straight up way ahead of everybody on this forum with PED's. I didn't join very long ago at all and everyone was in such a dramatic denial of everything PED-related back then in just 2010. I was called a fool for what I said back then and fast forward just a few years and most of the vermin have slowly managed to find a middle ground where they can still stay rooted in their agenda without sounding like a completely naïve fool... I was the one saying Lance was on PED's back when he was winning Tours and everybody yelled down my throat pointing a finger with a menacing tone. You can go back to the '90's and my opinions on PED's have barely changed. Over time, I have been proven more correct than incorrect. And as I said before, luckily the majority have slowly began to change their stance as well.

The bottom line is that this forums' casuals all fall on the party line of whatever Team Pacquiao said. So, the opinions changed the very instant Team Pacquiao's stance on PED's and PED testing changed after KTFO6 in 2012 and the following Pacquiao/Brandon Rios negotiations at the end of 2013, then further again with that awkward testing situation for the Pac/Bradley rematch.

 

My younger brother was smoking tons of pot back in the day, ran from a test and got kicked off the wrestling team.. He passed the very next day and they asked him to come back but he quit. lol.. Running = guilty IMO.. most cases anyway.