Fighters you have warmed to, and why...................

Floyd is apparently a big fan of the UK, maybe because of the reception he got here when he came to train (I think in one interview he said he was treated better in the UK than he is in America, and sounded quite bitter about that) and he said he wanted to fight here one day. A Khan fight would be ideal for that goal, and certainly a helluva better match-up than the rumour of Matthew Hatton. Khan needs to make more waves first, though.

As for this thread question...

It's not really a case of 'warming to', but I had never seen Yuri Foreman fight before that Cotto match. I didn't even bother to watch the match, because I figured it was just some hand-picked bum to make Cotto look good. Recently I finally saw a bit of that fight, and I really liked Yuri -- his leg completely went, and he showed so much heart trying to fight on. It was actually quite sad to watch the way he was stumbling all over the place, still trying to box Cotto. Really gutsy, and admirable. Hope he comes back from that.

 

Khan beating Mayweather right now is one of the most ******ed comments I've ever seen on this site. I'd be surprised if the fight lasted more than 6 rounds and if Floyd lost even a single round.

****ing hell what's next, Nate Campbell beating Marquez?

 

You obviously just repeated what i already put.
Tyson was PERCIEVED by the public to be what he was before prison, because he KOD Mcneely, Seldon and Mathis?
If anything hindsight shows us that Tyson was more washed up than Holyfield, Holy recently won the championship from Valuev, Tyson lost to Mcbride 5 years ago.

 

He clearly carried JMM. There is no logical reason that Khan could win this fight with current Mayweather. Floyd is superior in every single area by a good distance. Corrales would have easily KO'd Khan and Floyd raped him.

I like Khan but just because he's tall doesn't mean ****. He will never be in Floyd's league EVER.

 

What im trying to say is Holyfield wasnt as washed up as thought in 1996 because he is still around now and looks pretty decent, he also had some decent wins after 1996. Tyson on the other hand went from bad to worse and never looked like anythign of his past self after prison, but no, all people rember is his 'stunning' kos over Mcneely and Seldon. Im not saying Holyfield isnt shot, im saying his decline wasnt as fast or as bad as Tysons.

Holyfield maybe older but the experience he gained during the 1992-1996 years while Tyson was in prison benefitted him greatly. Battles with Holmes, Moorer, Mercer, Bowe and Foreman was better than rotting in prison and then fighting Seldon, Mcneely, Mathis, and Bruno.

Whether Holyfield is greater than Tyson is your opinion. IMO Tyson wipes the floor with Holyfield in 1991-2

 

khan well over rated and and would get a good hiding off mayweather khan will neve r ever be able to take a shot of moderate power he allways fights people who are lighter than him who cant punch and thats not down to khan his promoters make sure that the scales advantage is allways on team khan, he will do ok out of the boxing game and never have a 9 to 5 job so good luck on him....but never a goona be a legend,great to see john murry and stephen foster jnr flying the flag for the brits and unlucky to munro in his wbc attempt.

 

So a swarmer/slugger whose skills were declining and then spends 3 years in prison, loses to an ATG proves that he was never that good?

Tyson fans dont make up their own reality, the reality is that he was never the same after prison. Swarmer/Sluggers have short careers as it is. Frazier, Marciano and Tyson. Holyfields style was obviously suited for longetivity. Whetehr Tyson had as much left as Evander cannot be proven, however what is evident is that Tysons DESIRE had gone. His reaction after the Douglas fight was to get his titles back asap, he went through ruddock twice, who everyone else avoided at the time, compare this to the Tyson who lost to Holyfield, after that he didnt bother and fought a load of bums until Lennox Lewis came knocking.

Maybe Tyson was not involved in drawn out wars cz he was too good for his opponents....like Roy Jones for example, or Floyd Mayweather? You dont have to get involved in wars all the time just to prove how great you are.
Tyson was head and shoulders above all his competition, when he decided to turn headhunter instead of a pressure fighter is when he lowered himself to the competition. As i said before pre prison Tyson 1991-2 wipes the floor with Holyfield because during that period Holyfield wasnt as big as he would become later on (steroids anyone?) and wouldnt be able to outmuscle Tyson as he did during their meeting in 96.

 

No, Floyd tried to press for the knockout in round 11. He realized Marquez was there to stay, so he laid off the gas in the 12th.

 

I agree Tyson is not a slugger/swarmer her became that after abandoning his skills.
on the one hand yes Holyfield was invovled in wars whcih does affect your body, however on the other mentally it makes you tougher and prepares you for future wars, especially against a guy who is rusty after spending 3 years in prison. However there is also a mental element to it, Holyfield simply was more disciplined than Tyson.
Tyson physically may have had as much or as less as Holy but mentally Holyfield was on another planet comapred to Tyson.
And we know that a high percentage of the fight game is about the mental aspect.

Im off to bed now, will debate with you another time :hi: