so are you saying that since hatton, mosley, and delahoya were beaten by pac, then they can be defined as leftovers? but had they won, then they would be like hernandez, gatti, and ortiz and therefore NOT leftovers? :huh
the truth is that usually a loss doesn't make a fighter shot or worthless, only age does. Some guys come back better from beatings that other guys do (Barrera, for example) Both guys have great victories but floyd SDing Oscar doesn't make Oscar shot, age and weight did that. Cotto, Hatton, Clottey, and even Margarito should be considered near the top of their game - what did Floyd really do to Hatton? Hatton looked awesome against Paulie. He's a good win for both guys. If he was damaged goods for Pac, he was damaged goods for Floyd too from the collazo "good round". You dont' go from being world class to being a nobody after a loss, unless it's particularly debilitating like the Davey Moore/Duran beating or the Trinidad/Reid beating.