Floyd fans, does this change your mind on the Pac-Floyd breakdown? (Bill?)

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  1. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Then it's certainly not the test mayweather and co. are talking about.
     
  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    You're not making sense Charlie. First off, Floyd doesn't have the authority to tell the USADA how to conduct their testing. They have standard procedures that they follow. Second, you come out and say blood testing is not the norm with Olympic style testing, then you say Floyd requested all blood testing in the same fashion that would be taken by USADA athletes comepting at the olympic level. It just doesn't make sense. And what the hell is a USADA athlete?
     
  3. NALLEGE

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    If you think that PAc is not under suspicion by the boxing world, then you actards are sorely mistaken. You don't turn down 25-30 mil and say that you're scaredf of needles, or that Floyd won't run the negotiations. This fight is demanded by the public, so both will compromise.

    From Friday night fights to HBO and SHO...critics have been critical of PAc saying, "If you have nothing to hide, take the test". PAc is suspect. Floyd asked for the testing because of how Pac beat Cotto. Margarito hands were watched closely by Shane's camp to see if illegal wrapping/padding was being used. Margarito got caught, and PAc is now scared Ariza's punk ass might've given him PED's that he may have not known about or known about...
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd doesn't have ANY authority to request the USADA to adminsister drug testing at all. Yet the USADA is a business and they saw the opportunity to build on their portfolio. The USADA had a request from camp Mayweather and there were stipulations on what they wanted the testing to consist of. The USADA administers tests for Olympic athletes in the states in the same fashion for all athletes and most of it is urine based. They do minimal random Blood testing without any advanced notice. Floyd wanted the USADA to adminsiter the same kinds of testing but all BLOOD TESTING. A USADA athlete is pretty much an olympic athtlete who is from the United states who will have abide by the USADA strict drug testing polocies in order to compete and represent the US in olympic events.
     
  5. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Bam
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    Done deal. This guy just proved without a shadow of a doubt that Manny Pacquiao takes every PED in the book.
     
  6. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    Hate to break this to you, man...but both fighters are responsible for the breakdown of the "dream match-up".

    Both camps should be ashamed of themselves for this fight not happening. Who cares, though. As boxing fans we now have two great fights to look forward to instead of just one.

    Getting back to the truth of the failed negotiations, floyd, as did pac, failed to comply with the opposite party's demands. Both men are to blame. Only true unbiased fight fans seem to see it that way though.
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is crap. Why?

    -- Going in random blood testing was requested. Why front like you can do it if you can't? Negotiations should have never gotten as far as they did.

    -- The 50/50 compromise on a 30 day cut off window is 14 days. From four weeks to two weeks. Negotiation over. The only reason 24 days even came up was because Pac was busted on 24/7 giving blood 24 days out. (He is down to 20 on this fight so even this 21 day BS is out of the window!)

    So no. Nothing you said is relevant and for the record negotiations stopped because there was NOTHING TO NEGOTIATE. He met in the middle and Manny wanted him to go further. That is BS.
     
  8. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    This is just one of the MANY threads where *****s still try to repeat **** over and over again. I mean common.
     
  9. Paulsouthend

    Paulsouthend New Member Full Member

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    If Pacquiao has a 21 day window to take all the steroids he wants will it have that much of an effect on his performance? Surely he wont need to gain much physically three weeks before a fight
     
  10. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    :good
     
  11. JasonChaos27

    JasonChaos27 Active Member Full Member

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    Its funny how you keep coming back to this same "Roach said this", "Floyd agreed to 10 million per pound over" bull****. The welterweight limit is 147. Floyd pulled that **** against Marquez when he agreed to fight at 144 then changed the contract at the last minute to 147. So there is a history there, so would it not make sense to put in a weight clause?

    Pac who has never tested positive for nor been accused of using any sort of steroid PED etc is suddenly supposed to submit to olympic style blood testing out of nowhere? With no history of use or accusation before? Pac didnt have to agree to anything at all besides the testing required by the NSAC.

    So, just out of curiosity, please tell me why Mayweather, who through all of his pro fights has never once made any opponent submit or has even spoken of Olympic style blood testing before this, would suddenly require it? He just suddenly grew a conscience and decided to clean up boxing overnight?

    Despite if Roach said 7 days, 2 days , 30 days or 24 days it doesnt matter. Agreeing to any amount of time is a give in on Pacs part, being Olympic style blood testing is not required. I dont see Mayweather proposing this to the commissions to become standard for boxing.

    Im not by any means saying one fighter is afraid of the other. Its just two huge ego's clashing wanting to get their way. But lets not act like Mayweather is doing this to better the sport of boxing or that Pac not wanting to bend to Mayweathers bull**** demands is some sort of proof he is on or taking anything.

    Logic doesnt really matter in this situation though. If you're a fan of Floyd you're gonna see it his way, a fan of Pac his way. So unless substantiated proof comes out one way or the other, I think this topic has run its course.
     
  12. JasonChaos27

    JasonChaos27 Active Member Full Member

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    If Floyd said he would only fight Pac if Pac would lick his balls, you would still find some way of defending Floyd and making it seem like it was Pac running from the fight. Its not even that you're a fan of Floyd. You're one of the more racist fools Ive seen on here. If Floyd wasnt black I doubt youd even be a fan. All anyone has to do to see this is take a look at your previous posts. Especially the one from Daryll the other day.

    So anything you have to say is going to be skewed and bull****. Kinda hard to take you seriously.
     
  13. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hahahahaha
     
  14. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    Good Points:good

    BUT Let me add this:

    If you're very confident to whoop that midgets ass, then why all the drama??? It points to one reason only....

    ***** FLOYD IS ****IN SCARED!!!:deal
     
  15. ryan_c

    ryan_c Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The simple truth is, Mayweather is scared of Pacquiao. His demand for blood testing on his future opponents is just publicity stunt, to make it look like he want a change in boxing. But that is not he case, Mayweather is just a coward *****.